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This article is about the mentality of Jonathon Gruber and the rest of the Obama administration forcing through Obamacare. Isaiah 14:12-17 tells of another person who was filled with arrogance and pride, and thought that he deserved more power. Progressivism truly is satanic.
1 posted on 11/16/2014 9:40:56 AM PST by DeweyCA
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To: DeweyCA

Subpoena Gruber before Congress under Oath. Oh wait, he’ll just continue to lie and the precedence has been set he’ll get away with THAT, too. Join, Lerner, Koskinen, Holder, Hillary, etc.


2 posted on 11/16/2014 9:47:11 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: DeweyCA

This article at least to the point of the excerpt is spot on. Example of recent times Bill Clinton actually came out saying we “the people didn’t know what to do with our own money anyway” at the time of then largest tax increase in history.


4 posted on 11/16/2014 9:54:45 AM PST by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: DeweyCA

Most of the public don’t give a damn as long as their free toys to play with. Blind Americans and getting to damn late to wake up.


6 posted on 11/16/2014 10:04:04 AM PST by Logical me
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To: DeweyCA

If a law is a kind of contract and the basis of a contract is the good faith of the parties, then this is no law.


8 posted on 11/16/2014 10:14:42 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: DeweyCA

What happened to open debate on everything on C-span and a waiting period before Congress votes so that the public has a chance to hear all sides and to make their wishes known to their Congressional reps?

Gosh that sounded so reasonable in the 2008 campaign did it not?


9 posted on 11/16/2014 10:31:44 AM PST by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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Headline, “Smug Obama administration duped the public”, is not really accurate in that ALL polls taken of the “public” before, during and after passage of Obamacare showed that only a minority favored the thing. Many of those who voted for the thing have since been voted out of office.

The only people who were truly “duped” were Obama’s and the Democrats’ core constituency? While their numbers are significant, they do not represent the “public” at large...yet


10 posted on 11/16/2014 10:45:58 AM PST by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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Smug Obama administration duped the public media

Fixed. The media did the public duping, willfully.

12 posted on 11/16/2014 10:52:43 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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13 posted on 11/16/2014 10:59:19 AM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: DeweyCA

As I recall, the majority of the public opposed obamacare. So who did they fool?


20 posted on 11/16/2014 12:10:29 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: DeweyCA
Progressivism truly is satanic.

Yes it is. People refuse to trust in God, so God gives them over to evil tyrants. It has been repeated again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again throughout history.

Just read 1 and 2 Kings for a brief description.

The problem is, those of us who have faith and believe in the Almighty are force to suffer along with the rest of the rabble that brought us here.

And then when we complain, we are labeled with every slander and profanity they can imagine.

21 posted on 11/16/2014 12:49:43 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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.....Obama is now denying Gruber played a significant role in designing Obamacare: “The fact that an adviser who was never on our staff expressed an opinion that I completely disagree with in terms of the voters is not a reflection on the actual process that was run.”

Obama also evidently believes the WH press pack is also stupid......he could be right....b/c not one reporter asked how such an unimportant adviser as Gruber got into the White House meeting during which the deceptive “Cadillac Tax” was concocted.....w/ Obama present...

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LET'S CONNECT THE DOTS---The salient point is this: Gruber acting as an independent researcher is one thing---but Gruber consorting w/ many people in govt figuring out ways to lie in order to dupe the tax-paying public is a CONSPIRACY.

POINTS TO PONDER:

<><> (1) WH sign-in sheets show Gruber went there at least nineteen times.

<><>(2) Gruber, himself, talked about Obama being in the room when the Cadillac tax was invented.

<><> (3) Based on his Obamacare experiences, Gruber took tax dollars from several states to set up Obamacare exchanges....and earned millions of dollars doing so.

<><>(4) Nancy Pelosi is caught on-tape citing Gruber as a reliable source.

<><> (5) Gruber was there when Hillarycare was developed.

<><>(6) Another Gruber confession involved a conspiracy w/ Teddy Kennedy's govt fraud---manipulating Medicare for some $500 million----to secretly finance Romneycare.

<><>(7) A former adviser to then-HHS Secy Kathleen Sebelius told the NYT Gruber was on-board whie the govt was formulating the plan.

<><> (8) According BarackObama.com 2012, President Obama's official website, Jon Gruber "helped write Obamacare....w/ specific quotes from Obama tying Mitt Romney to ObamaCare...saying that "RomneyCare" was the model for Obamacare.

<><> (9) The Congressional Budget Office Effectively Used Gruber’s Model to Score Obamacare.

In sum, the makings of a conpiracy are documented---Gruber had influence over the CBO, the White House, and Congress alike. It's hard to overestimate his importance; Gruber's role was central to the efforts of President Obama and his Democratic allies to shove Obamacare down an unwilling citizenry’s throat.

more below

30 posted on 11/17/2014 5:48:09 AM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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I'M SURE VALERIE KNOWS (/SNIX)---Obama is downplaying Gruber's role, claiming he had no part in passing healthcare.

But if Gruber was NOT the Obamacare architect---then Gruber took money under false pretenses and should be prosecuted for govt fraud. He took tax dollars from the feds and state govts "posing" as an expert.

TAXPAYERS DEMAND CONGRESS GET ANSWERS WRT GRUBER'S CASHING-IN ON THE BACKS OF "STUPID" TAXPAYERS

Four U.S. states and the federal government (read taxpayers) have padded Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber's wallet to the tune of $5.9 million since 2000, including millions connected to his work on the Affordable Care Act.

We need investigations---to see how our tax dollars changed hands---and landed into Gruber's pockets. The disdainful, preening Gruber was paid tax dollars to spin his web of lies...and to reiterate his contempt for taxpayers who are footing the bills.

Even more disturbing is the massive, multi-billion-dollar slush fund the self-serving Gruber hid from "stupid" Americans in Obamacare. Gruber made dam sure it was kept hidden from us stupid taxpayers.

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The Untraceable $8 Billion ObamaCare PR Budget---truly govt fraud at its finest. Egged on by Pelosi, Democrats slavishly voted for Obamacare by an historic straignt-party line vote. But not one Democrat told Americans about Obamacare's Section 4002---which mandates an $8B untraceable fund to "promote" Obamacare (apparently b/c Boobamba had so little confidence in his signature legislation).

THE PAYOFF--WHO GETS THE MONEY? In 2010 Taxpayers are extorted $500 million, in 2011, $750 million, 2012, $1 billion, 2013, $1.25 billion, 2014, $1.5 billion, and, in 2015 and on, $2 billion

<><> Where is all that money going?

<><> Was cashing-in the incentive in getting the thing passed.

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Taxpayers demand to know ---- why Gruber/Obama/Pelosi didnt reveal that Obamacare contains a multi-billion dollar slush fund?

Exactly who is cashing in?

The sound of West Wing wire-transfers to offshore banks is almost palpable.

31 posted on 11/17/2014 5:49:25 AM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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