More on Jon Gruber

New York Times ^ | January 15, 2010 | Paul Krugman

[gusopol3]

In fact, it’s hard to see who else you could have hired. Modeling health reform is a very detail-driven business: you need a detailed statistical representation of the population, together with detailed estimates of behavioral responses to incentives. Gruber has spent years developing such a model, which is maintained and update at considerable expense. Who else could bring the same resources to bear? Well, I guess the administration could have turned to the Lewin Group, but aside from the fact that Gruber has such sterling academic credentials, Lewin is owned by United Healthcare.

In other words, Gruber is a real authority, and the obvious person to fill a needed role. As I’ve written before, he should have taken more pains to reveal that role. But there was nothing corrupt about the arrangement.

[Army Air Corps]

...after all, everybody reads Krugman. even Pelosi.

Does she have to read Krugman in Comic Book form?

[RightGeek]

[Gay State Conservative]

save for later

[maggief]

More stupidity...

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/14/stupidity-in-economic-discourse/

Stupidity in Economic Discourse

Paul Krugman

FEBRUARY 14, 2014 7:39 AMFebruary 14, 2014 7:39 am

Jonathan Gruber is mad as hell, and he’s not going to take it anymore. The eminent health care economist and health reform architect is annoyed at Casey Mulligan’s latest, which misrepresents Gruber’s views; mine too.

Gruber is right to be mad: that was a disgraceful, deceptive column. But I think you also want to put it into a larger picture: the enduring myth of the stupid progressive economist.

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[Travis McGee]

[tumblindice]

Paul “Ring Meat” Krugman.

[TigersEye]

Paul Krugman, the penultimate Gruberite.

[Seaplaner]

Mr. Krugman's entire article argues away from the major points, then concludes... but there is no scandal whatsoever.

[Busko]

Nothing but a sh!t bag. goose stepping leftist elitist, just like his buddies Obama and Romney.

[SteveH]

Demoralization is not a Policy Achievement
Casey Mulligan
2/12/2014
NY Times

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/demoralization-is-not-a-policy-achievement/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=1

[VeniVidiVici]

In other words, Gruber is a real authority, and the obvious person to fill a needed role. As I’ve written before, he should have taken more pains to reveal that role. But there was nothing corrupt about the arrangement.

Whaaa? I don't think anyone has whined about the Democrats hiring Gruber. It's what he SAID, not who they hired, that is the problem.

[GraceG]

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

From Gruber's coloring book. Sound familiar?

[nathanbedford]

… by claiming that there’s a huge scandal when nothing worse happened than insufficient care about disclosure, Greenwald …

There was insufficient care about disclosure because the scheme was to use tax dollars to lie to taxpayers.

Krugman argues that the administration has to have its experts and that the CBO is somehow incapable of performing the job it was designed to do. Where is it written in the Constitution that tax bills should originate in the office of the President of the United States? If Obamacare was a tax bill it must originate in the House to be constitutional. It did not. That is why the administration was producing experts.

The absence of transparency in the payments to Professor Gruber are but part of a greater conspiracy to create a false narrative to give cover to Democrats to pass Obamacare. If the administration wants to have its experts, they should be provided for by legislation from Congress and overseen by Congress. There should be no blanket authorization to hire experts without congressional knowledge. But this is a small part of a very large problem in which Congress has increasingly abdicated its responsibilities to legislate and oversee the administration of the country.

Now Congress has said to the administration, take the taxpayers money, spend it on whom you wish, just give us a patina of academic legitimacy, no need to disclose the existence of the bribes, and we will accept as Delphic any hockey sticks your experts wish to put under our noses and we will use this narrative so created to pass a law which hands over the health of American citizens to a bureaucracy under the instructions, make it up as you go along, after somebody has read it.

[all the best]

Krugman says “it’s hard to see who else you could have hired”. How about you hire nobody and let free people figure out their health care without your interference?

[Oratam]

This Gruber story has to reach beyond conservative websites. John and Mary Moderate need to understand how the criminal enterprise known as the Democrat Party works to their detriment. This story proves it.

The amnesty issue is gaining traction in places and among people one wouldn't expect. This Gruber business is even easier to comprehend. It's actually the answer to our prayers and we need to seize on it.

If you're on social media, share these stories several times a day. Gruber needs to become a household word.

[Old North State]

Paul Krugman, former chief economic advisor for Enron.

[EVO X]

John and Mary Moderate need to understand how the criminal enterprise known as the Democrat Party works to their detriment. This story proves it.

Most people don't pay attention to this stuff, until they get mugged. Going into the 2012 elections, I think most people thought politicians were telling the truth about ACA or didn't see any cause for concern at the time. I think enough people got mugged last fall and this fall, that it made a difference in the elections. I would like to think that a majority of Americans don't like being lied to and that repeal of this this terrible bill will occur soon..

[gusopol3]

Thanks ! It’s the best evidence I’ve seen that he really is a blithering idiot. No wonder he was such an easy mark for Gruber.

[GOPJ]

Gruber has spent years developing such a model, which is maintained and update at considerable expense. Who else could bring the same resources to bear? Well, I guess the administration could have turned to the Lewin Group, but aside from the fact that Gruber has such sterling academic credentials, Lewin is owned by United Healthcare.

In other words, Gruber is a real authority, and the obvious person to fill a needed role.

Krugman's as brilliant today as he was was in 2010...