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Here Comes Gruber Tape Number Five
TruthRevolt.org ^ | 11-14-2014 | Jeff Dunetz

Posted on 11/14/2014 8:10:28 PM PST by servo1969

A fifth video of Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber was released by Watchdog.com on Friday. It shows his continued lack of respect for the average American. This time he's not calling all Americans stupid, or saying the Cadillac Tax was written to fool the economically illiterate. This time he is attacking one voter who sent the Vermont House Health Care Committee a letter stating his concerns about Obamacare. Gruber's response to the letter was a snarky,“Was this written by my adolescent children by any chance?"

In the video (above) Feb 18, 2011 meeting of the Vermont House Representatives committee, Gruber listens to Democratic committee Chairman Mark Larson read a letter from a Vermont citizen who is concerned that Obamacare will lead to “ballooning costs, increased taxes and bureaucratic outrages,” among other things.

After Larson finishes reading the Vermonter's letter, Gruber said mockingly, “Was this written by my adolescent children by any chance?” The room erupted in laughter.

As Watchdog reports, the letter writer and target of Gruber's snarky comment was a two-term Vermont State Senator and advisor to President Reagan:

"It was actually written by a former senior policy adviser in the White House who knew something about health care systems,” said John McClaughry, a two-term Vermont state senator and adviser to President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s.

McClaughry, who wrote the comment in an op-ed weeks before the 2011 committee meeting, told Vermont Watchdog he did not know Gruber made the condescending insult. However, he was aware of other videos discovered this week in which Gruber boasted of writing deceptive policies to trick “stupid” American voters.

“No one should trust this man. … Based on the rest of the stuff that’s come out on the videos, nobody can trust this guy. He has no use for transparency, he thinks people are stupid, and he’ll do anything to get this thing through and pocket his $400,000. That’s not in the interest of the people of Vermont,” McClaughry said.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; gruber; jonathangruber; nancypelosi; obama; obamacare
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1 posted on 11/14/2014 8:10:28 PM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Release them once a week, on Monday morning.


2 posted on 11/14/2014 8:11:11 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: servo1969

I think Rush Limbaugh mentioned this on his program today.


3 posted on 11/14/2014 8:11:48 PM PST by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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To: servo1969

Actually there are 6 now.

I especially liked the one where he spoke in glowing terms of Ted Kennedy and his ripping off the feds for some 400 million per year.


4 posted on 11/14/2014 8:15:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: servo1969

Its like the 12 days of Grubermas.


5 posted on 11/14/2014 8:16:32 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: servo1969

The guy has made far more than $400,000. States have given him similar amounts.

Maybe a state could find fraud and file suit or even criminal charges.


6 posted on 11/14/2014 8:17:17 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: servo1969

Sorry to hear that he has reproduced.


7 posted on 11/14/2014 8:18:45 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Cold Heart

Maybe 6 million people who lost their insurance could file individual suits.


8 posted on 11/14/2014 8:19:55 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: servo1969

They’re behind times...it’s now up to 6.


9 posted on 11/14/2014 8:21:05 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Cold Heart

He’s actually made over $2 million from Romneycare and Obamacare. Apparently he charges a flat-fee of $400,000 per pop.


10 posted on 11/14/2014 8:22:03 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: servo1969

They could release 100 tapes with him saying the voters are stupid and nothing will happen. The point for me is that it was known the law was bad so they lied about even Obama lied about it and what dose it matter. They are shoving this piece of crap down out throats come hell or high water.

I currently do not have insurance my husband has been out of work for just over a year so we have no insurance but now it is not bad enough we don’t have insurance we are going to be fined at $325.00 per person so a 650.00 fine for what.. I hate Obama and all his henchmen including Gruber. I wish for Gruber that he happens to be driving through Ferguson and his car runs out of gas when the Grand Jury indicates their findings. No mercy for that jerk.


11 posted on 11/14/2014 8:22:16 PM PST by funfan
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To: servo1969
"Uberfuehrer Gruber" has a certain ring to it.

Leni

12 posted on 11/14/2014 8:23:12 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: servo1969

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/index.html#/v/3892355461001

Colleague of ObamaCare architect (Hsiao) explains ‘stupid’ comments
Fellow economist attempts to explain what Jonathan Gruber really meant by his repeated references to the ‘stupidity’ of American voters in past remarks about ObamaCare. #GruberGate #ObamaCare

http://ldihealtheconomist.com/he000015.shtml

Meet The Architect of Vermont’s Single-Payer Plan
Harvard’s William Hsiao Zigs as Rest of Health Care Zags

By Hoag Levins... | ...November 1, 2011 |

PHILADELPHIA — In the mid-1990s, Harvard health economist William Hsiao abandoned the U.S. health system as an area of study to focus his efforts on the health systems of other countries. The switch was motivated by frustration. “I gave up on the United States,” said the 75-year-old China-born scholar who emigrated to this country as a teenager. “I did not do any more work on the U.S. because Washington politics were so driven by ideology, and money played such an important role in policy making, that I really couldn’t contribute to it any more. The research I did just got pushed aside.”

Hsiao, a professor of economics at the Harvard School of Public Health in Boston, subsequently went on to become one of the world’s leading authorities on national health care systems, providing analysis and consulting services to 30 countries in Europe, Africa, Asia and Australia. He played a major role in reorganizing the health care systems in nine of those nations.
‘Incoherent and incongruent system’

Through it all he retained his dim view of America’s health care system and the lobbyists and partisan politics that control its destiny. In a recent interview in Health Affairs magazine he said the U.S. has “put on so many Band-Aids [on health care] that it has become an incoherent and incongruent system that causes much waste, inefficiencies and poor quality health care.”

And so, Hsiao’s history and attitude make it all the more noteworthy that last year, after a 16-year hiatus, he again focused on U.S. health care and became the architect of a new law establishing Vermont as the first state to adopt a “single-payer” health insurance strategy. He recently discussed that experience in a University of Pennsylvania seminar co-sponsored by the Leonard Davis Institute of Health Economics and the Center for Public Health Initiatives.

“Vermont and the U.S. face common problems: the uninsured, the underinsured, cost escalation and an uneven quality of care,” he said. “If you’ve read the Commonwealth Fund’s reports, you know the U.S. has some of the best quality care in the world and some of the really not-so-good care. It’s highly uneven. Vermont has the ambition to solve all these problems with a single-payer system.”

Around the world

The single-payer approach is now widely used in other areas of the world including Canada, Great Britain, France, Germany and Switzerland. The model varies widely from country to country but, generally speaking, is a state-run, taxpayer-funded insurance program that standardizes administrative procedures, claims processing and payments across a broad population of patients. That unified system collects all the money, pays all the bills and sets the rates and rules for care.

Called “Green Mountain Care,” the single-payer system outlined in the 203-page Vermont plan that became a 102-page law in May is a public-private hybrid. It envisions a state-organized system of universal coverage for all residents funded by payroll taxes and administered under contract by a large private enterprise, probably an insurance company.

To prepare the plan, Hsiao, who has been a Harvard faculty member for 32 years, led a team that included Jonathan Gruber, an economics professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology; Steven Kappel, the head of Vermont’s Policy Integrity organization; and a group of Harvard health policy analysts. Their work was funded by a contract from the Vermont legislature and a grant from the Commonwealth Fund.

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Hsiao’s team even helped the new governor “sell” the plan to voters and legislators. “You have to frame the issue to capture the public’s imagination and attention so they can resonate with it quickly,” he said. “We used ‘the current system is broken’ because it was a statement that people could all relate to in his or her own way. What we were doing was not economics but rather political economics.”

Using Jonathan Gruber’s microsimulation model, Hsiao’s team analyzed Vermont’s health care economy and identified 16 hurdles that had to be overcome to craft a viable plan. “Then we talked to all the payers; state government, businesses large and small, workers, households,” said Hsiao. “They all told us, ‘I can’t afford another penny for health care. If your proposal requires me to pay more, I’m going to oppose it.’ At the same time, providers were telling us, ‘If you decrease our net income by a penny, we will oppose you.’”

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http://pnhp.org/blog/2010/06/29/vermont-joint-fiscal-committee-approves-single-payer-study/

Vermont health reform panel recommends analyst

By Nancy Remsen
Burlington Free Press
June 29, 2010
The Health Care Reform Commission recommended Monday that the Legislature hire the Harvard economist who helped Taiwan revamp its health-care system for a six-month, $300,000 health research project for Vermont.

http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/for-health-care-reform-dr-hsiao-is-the-man-with-the-plan/Content?oid=2142376

“He’s not some consultant who’s in this for the money,” Richter says of Hsiao, who declined personal payment so he could use all $300,000 allocated by the state to assemble a team with required expertise.

Prominent among the team’s 20 members is MIT health economist Jonathan Gruber, who helped draft the blueprint for the far-reaching Massachusetts reform. Hsiao also lauds the work of Steve Kappel, a Montpelier-based health policy analyst who was holed up in Hsiao’s office last Saturday night in a nondescript building on Mt. Auburn Street, a few blocks from snowbound Harvard Square.

“I didn’t need to do this,” says Hsiao in a face-to-face interview, conceding he’s “more exhausted than excited” by the prospect of presenting his plan for a single-payer health system in Vermont. “I’ve got millions of dollars in research projects on my plate around the world. I travel constantly in addition to teaching.”


13 posted on 11/14/2014 8:25:48 PM PST by maggief
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To: servo1969
Gruber is providing policy expertise, research and economic modeling related to the implementation of Green Mountain Care, Vermont’s state-financed health care system.

According to recent White House visitor logs, Gruber also continues to meet with White House officials. Gruber has visited White House officials on 15 occasions since 2009 — two of the visits occurred in January of this year.

Gruber seems to be continually working as a Government consultant. He designed Romeny Care and Obama Care, he was also deep in to HillaryCare and now Green Mountain Care.

So when does this economics professor ever find time to teach or do research.

If I was the President of MIT, I would be asking him why he should remain in the employ of the university.

14 posted on 11/14/2014 8:26:38 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I am not a lawyer, but I wonder if the recordings of him admitting he/they lied, misled, and deliberately misreprented the law could expose him to liability? A business that engaged in this much false advertising would surely face repercussions. I would dearly love to see this punk die broke after spending all his blood money defending himself.


15 posted on 11/14/2014 8:46:24 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: funfan
"I currently do not have insurance my husband has been out of work for just over a year so we have no insurance but now it is not bad enough we don’t have insurance we are going to be fined at $325.00 per person so a 650.00 fine for what."



Oh my goodness, that gets me so angry about this sociopath who is currently our President.
He hates America, our beloved American heritage, and our American way of life.
My fingers are crossed for you, FRiend.

16 posted on 11/14/2014 8:54:33 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m looking forward to The Gruber Film Festival.

Should be fun on a cold winter evening.

.


17 posted on 11/14/2014 8:58:15 PM PST by Mears
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To: servo1969

Is that like Mambo Number Five?


18 posted on 11/14/2014 9:01:54 PM PST by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Maybe 6 million people who lost their insurance could file individual suits.

Well ...he made his speeches in various states......

Mr RICO...pick up the red courtesy phone.....

Triple damages in play.

19 posted on 11/14/2014 9:07:21 PM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: maggief
Gruber, an economics professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology;

And expert in statistics and probability....


20 posted on 11/14/2014 9:13:10 PM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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