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Gay activists urge UN to declare ‘reparative therapy’ a form of torture
LIFe Site News ^ | November 14, 2014 | AustIN RUSE

Posted on 11/14/2014 3:56:45 PM PST by NYer

American activists against “reparative therapy” asked the UN Committee on Torture to define the practice as a form of torture and a violation of international law.

At issue is the treatment sought by persons who struggle with unwanted same-sex desires. Many therapists still offer the treatment to those who ask for it, even though professional organizations for the therapeutic community say same-sex desire is not a form of mental illness and discourage this kind of therapy.

There is a movement in the United States to ban all such therapy by law. Already, New Jersey and California have banned reparative therapy for minors and the National Center for Lesbian Rights is campaigning for a nationwide ban in the next five years. It was this group that went to Geneva this week.

The UN Committee on Torture is a treaty monitoring body that oversees implementation of the UN treaty against torture by countries that have ratified it. The same committee infamously scolded the Vatican earlier this year for Church teaching on abortion. One committee member, American Felice Gaer, said laws against abortion are a form of torture.

The convention banning torture defines torture as the deliberate infliction of physical or mental pain by a “public official” in order to elicit a confession or as a form of punishment or reprisal.

The United States is on the dock this week. Under the practice adopted by the committee, all and sundry groups get a chance to file grievances in the form of “shadow reports” to the committee. Oftentimes, the committee uncritically adopts the accusations, and even legal theories, put forth in these reports when they question reporting governments.

On Tuesday, the activists met privately with the committee and told them horror stories about the alleged torture that some have undergone in “reparative therapy.”

One witness was a young man named Samuel Brinton who has become a cause celeb since being filmed in a U.S. documentary some years back. Brinton says his parents sent him to a therapist that tied his hands down and put blocks of ice on his upturned palms, strapped copper wire to his arms and stuck electrodes into his fingers in order to torture him whenever he became aroused at the male form. These types of charges are common among activists trying to ban “reparative therapy.”

Brinton’s veracity has been brought into question not by the religious right but by important LGBT figures including Wayne Besen, former chief spokesman for the LGBT Human Rights Campaign, who now runs a website called Truth Wins Out that is dedicated to uncovering what it considers to be the “anti-gay” lies among social conservatives and ex-gays.

Besen said he tried for a month to get to the bottom of the Brinton story and was not able to. He pressed Brinton for the name of the therapist who did this to him. Brinton said he couldn’t remember and that he does not have to prove his story. Besen therefore said the Brinton story is not verifiable and shouldn’t be used.

Even so, Brinton was in Geneva telling his story this week.

The US delegation received a number of questions related to these types of accusations. One questioner wanted to know what the US was doing to prosecute the practitioners of such therapy.

The final report of the committee will be released in the coming weeks and will likely make recommendations to curb “reparative therapy.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: gender; glbt; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; un

1 posted on 11/14/2014 3:56:45 PM PST by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/14/2014 3:57:08 PM PST by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

torture?...Please Princess!!!


3 posted on 11/14/2014 3:58:12 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill)
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Meaning that Christian Biblical teaching, and the Law of God, is "torture."

Massive and horrible Christian persecution is coming to the West.

But God will Judge them that inflict punishment on His chosen ones. And it will be horrible for them.

4 posted on 11/14/2014 4:00:37 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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“Torture” just isn’t what it was in the good old days. A constipated liberal thinks somebody is “torturing” them.


5 posted on 11/14/2014 4:05:32 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ('Provisional ballots'. When legal votes just aren't getting the job done. - The DemocRATS.)
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I was working in a town that turned gay in 2 years.One came in and handed me some purchases and I said you hold it.He went to hand it to me again and I said you hold it.I can't count you up and hold the item's at the same time.He said I was insulting.So I held the objects gave him the pen and paper and told him the prices and asked him to write them down and add them and give me a total..He said this is insulting threw down the paper and and pencil and left.God bless Him.
6 posted on 11/14/2014 4:08:18 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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American activists against “reparative therapy” Satan asked the UN Committee on Torture to define the practice as a form of torture and a violation of international law.
7 posted on 11/14/2014 4:11:58 PM PST by ecomcon
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Yes but chemically castrating a young boy so he can not enter puberty because his lesbian or nutzo parents want a girl is not torture?


8 posted on 11/14/2014 4:18:58 PM PST by Maelstorm (If you wouldn't trust someone with your money why would you trust them with your culture?)
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sodom and gomorrah, childs play compared to today perhaps


9 posted on 11/14/2014 4:21:54 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (Justice for officer Darren------------ PALIN 2016 OR BUST)
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Sodomites and the United Nations... it figures—eccchh!


10 posted on 11/14/2014 4:24:43 PM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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Having to listen to Gay activists is torture


11 posted on 11/14/2014 4:28:24 PM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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Soon to be followed by a plea for Roman Polanski to be pardoned.


12 posted on 11/14/2014 4:43:58 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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As mentioned in related threads, both Thomas Jefferson, undoubtedly based on his experience as vice president of the USA and therefore president of the Senate, and also the Supreme Court, have clariifed the following limits concerning the constitutional power of the president and the Senate to negotate treaties. Such power cannot be use as a back door to force US citizens to comply with foreign laws based on powers that the states have never delegated to the feds expressly via the Constitution. Here are relevant excerpts.

So just as with other misguided political UN lobbying groups like pro-gun control and Agenda 21 factions, pro-gay activists are pushing their agenda by wrongly trying to expand the federal government’s powers outside the framework of the Constitution.

13 posted on 11/14/2014 4:53:34 PM PST by Amendment10
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Well, if shooting a thug is torture I guess we have to loosen up our definition.


14 posted on 11/14/2014 5:16:40 PM PST by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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Death to the apostastes and their Christian leaders, basically.

Who needs ISIS with gay ayatollahs?


15 posted on 11/14/2014 6:04:00 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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So they want to insure that none among their sodomite lot ever recover that is just evil. But i suppose in the long run its a self correcting problem as its destined to lead to the dwindling extinction of their sinful lot.

I don’t really see how any of them have the right to make such an evil degree for all of them.


16 posted on 11/15/2014 5:44:07 AM PST by Monorprise
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“The convention banning torture defines torture as the deliberate infliction of physical or mental pain by a “public official” in order to elicit a confession or as a form of punishment or reprisal.”

Forgive me but does this broad definition not necessarily include any and all forms of law enforcement period?

The global left are quite found of their abrtary and ultimately meaningless definitions. Their point is to be global dictators and declare that nothing is ok without their say so.


17 posted on 11/15/2014 5:47:44 AM PST by Monorprise
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