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In Third Video, Obamacare Architect Talks About ‘Basic Exploitation’ Of American Voters [VIDEO]
Daily Caller ^ | November 12, 2014 | Chuck Ross

Posted on 11/12/2014 7:48:09 AM PST by C19fan

A third video has surfaced of Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber bragging about pulling the wool over the eyes of the American public in order to help implement Obamacare.

“It’s a very clever, you know, basic exploitation of the lack of economic understanding of the American voter,” Gruber, an economist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said during a speech at the University of Rhode Island in November 2012.

He was discussing what is known as the Cadillac tax and how it came into being.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; cadillactax; california; gruber; grubergate; grubervideo; jonathangruber; nancypelosi; obamacare; obamacareemployers; obamacarelies; obamacarepremiums; stupidvoters
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To: realr

Of course pressure can be applied, and I’m sure it will be. Remember that Gruber’s antics are nothing new to the MIT administration though so do not expect much, if any, action. In the end his job is small potatoes. His contribution to public support against obamacare is where the real treasure is.


41 posted on 11/12/2014 9:21:26 AM PST by moehoward
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To: C19fan; All
Videos: Meet the Mild-Mannered Investment Adviser Who's Humiliating the Administration Over Obamacare
42 posted on 11/12/2014 9:25:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: C19fan

Bump


43 posted on 11/12/2014 9:27:25 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: C19fan

Ping for later


44 posted on 11/12/2014 9:39:22 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: C19fan

Amazingly Gruber predicted a 5-4 Decision by the Supreme Court in March, 2012 (interview with the dailybeast) He’s a psychic also.


45 posted on 11/12/2014 9:43:23 AM PST by machogirl
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To: MUDDOG

How long will this guy be on the sunny side of the grass? Loose cannon that runs his mouth will never be allowed to get to a witness stand.


46 posted on 11/12/2014 9:46:49 AM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: Calamari

Luckily he’s on tape.


47 posted on 11/12/2014 9:52:02 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: GOPJ

My old man, 60 yrs ago, was working on the DEW Line, early-warning system in the Arctic. They had an MIT guy show up in Thule, Greenland — no jacket, and they’re all wearing parkas and much, much else. Nobody told this guy it’s cold in Greenland.


48 posted on 11/12/2014 10:01:29 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: C19fan

The Prisoners in the Gulags cried when Stalin died.

History repeats itself.


49 posted on 11/12/2014 10:07:30 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (11/04/14, the day people finally realized that their Dictator is just a Dick..)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Gruber’s 4th video, not made public yet: “Obama was not born in Hawaii as he claims. Americans are stupid, and they believe that Obama was born in Hawaii because they have blind faith in Obama, even though the information right in front of their faces prove that Obama was NOT born in Hawaii as he claims.” Joke, I think.


50 posted on 11/12/2014 10:20:19 AM PST by john mirse
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To: machogirl

-— lol, I had to cut out on Levin yesterday. I didn’t hear that. -—

Mark’s producer tried contacting Gruber. The answer from his office was, “he’s to busy.”

More likely he didn’t want to be shark chum.


51 posted on 11/12/2014 10:35:14 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: MUDDOG

That makes us small-minded and intolerant.

Closing MIT for being what it has become, or at least part of it, would be *policy*.


52 posted on 11/12/2014 10:41:06 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: MUDDOG

keyboard spew alert


53 posted on 11/12/2014 10:46:30 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: MUDDOG

Unraveling tenure at MIT
Revealing one of the most subtle and misunderstood processes at MIT, and explaining how one professor, despite his popular teaching, lost because of it
By Jessica Lin
STAFF REPORTER
June 11, 2010

http://tech.mit.edu/V130/N28/tenure.html

[...]

Imperfect, but still ‘a good thing’

Tenure is not infallible. “It’s a process that works pretty well,” said Winston. “But it’s a process that can make mistakes both ways.” Some deserving individuals are not tenured, and sometimes tenured individuals “aren’t suited to helping the long-term reputation of the institution, or their problem is not of long-term interest.”

Tenure decisions are also susceptible to the bias of contemporary academic interest. Winston recalls that for a period of time, “string theorists couldn’t get jobs” in physics departments. In a later era, “you couldn’t get a job unless you were a string theorist.”

Deserving or not, tenured professors become diamonds with fine print: their positions last “forever,” secure for the rest of their lifetimes, barring “adequate cause.” However, that cause has to be “pretty egregious,” according to Gray. Asked just what a professor would have to do get his tenure revoked, Gray paused a moment to think. “Cheating on your research. Cookin’ the books. Producing data you didn’t really take.” And even that might not be egregious enough.

Gray tried years ago, as MIT Chancellor in the 1970s, to relieve a tenured professor who had been accused of passing off work of other faculty in his department as his own, and lying on his resume, claiming to have a doctorate he did not have. A committee of disinterested faculty reviewed the case and agreed with the charges, but they didn’t think it warranted taking away tenure. That was the only attempt in his nine years as Chancellor and ten years as President. Part of the reason for the low number, he says, is that “the tenure process is thorough, and usually the people who get through are great people.”

The purpose of tenure

Despite the rare deviants, tenure serves an important purpose. It was established in the early twentieth century to protect professors from being fired for having views that college administrators disagreed with. Tenure “guaranteed you freedom of speech,” said Gray.


54 posted on 11/12/2014 10:59:37 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

THAT interview would have been PRICELESS.
Gruber talks so fast and throws out numbers, it’s almost impossible to digest what he is throwing out. Mark would have told him to “hang on” or put him on hold. lol


55 posted on 11/12/2014 11:02:53 AM PST by machogirl
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To: lentulusgracchus

keyboard spew alert


56 posted on 11/12/2014 11:03:32 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: All

Here is a legal research question— if an MIT economics professor and NBER consultant is hired as a consultant by HHS and subsequently admits to FRAUD in order to DECEIVE the American public and the CBO in the process of getting a Congressional health care bill signed into law, and people subsequently lose insurance and/or their insurance rates go up instead of down as predicted by the professor/consultant, is this actionable in civil court?Is MIT and/or NBER complicit in a conspiracy and/or guilty of fraud and/or negligence?


57 posted on 11/12/2014 11:08:07 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH
sometimes tenured individuals “aren’t suited to helping the long-term reputation of the institution

Sounds like Gruber to me.

I remembered MIT had a "climate change denier" on the faculty. I just looked him up on google -- Richard Lindzen. He's retired now.

MIT probably saw him as a much bigger embarrassment than Gruber.

58 posted on 11/12/2014 11:08:16 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: SteveH
subsequently admits to FRAUD

From your earlier post from MIT webpage, they list academic fraud as a reason to get fired.

But they probably don't count political fraud as that bad.

59 posted on 11/12/2014 11:11:35 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG

I was concerned about that too, but I read today that a Gruber video was included in the King v. Burwell case that the Supreme Court has taken up. (That’s the exchange subsidy case.)

So our side’s lawyers are including them as evidence, and apparently they’re admissible.


Thanks, good to hear; we’ll see how the blackmail against his adopted kids holds up.


60 posted on 11/12/2014 1:07:36 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (In Times of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Becomes a Revolutionary Act.)
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