Posted on 11/09/2014 10:16:24 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
General Patton had it right in 1945.
“.....and I’ll make it look like they started it”.
Correct.
Sounds like Patton and Winnie were on the same page.
They were.
A lot more than that. The death toll from the Stalin-engineered famine in Ukraine was 7 million.
I think 20-30 million is closer to Stalin's real number.
Hopefully we would have learned from the Germans, and the French, and their failures. Russia is an unpleasant country to fight a war in the winter.
Well that’s nice, considering Russia pretty much bailed Britain’s butts out during WWII. Germany’s ill-fated decision to invade Russia took so much pressure off of Britain.
If the Germans hadn’t invaded the USSR, it would have been a standoff between Britain and Germany.
Only after D-day did the British and Americans receive any benefit of so much of German Army being tied up in the USSR.
The USA bailed out the USSR. The USSR bailed no one out. They simply relieved the pressure.
By the time Eisenhower became president, the Soviets did have the bomb. But, despite common belief to the contrary, they were in no shape to go against the US militarily. Ike found himself having to restrain generals who favored a pre-emptive first strike, while simultaneously being unable to reveal the extent to which the "missile gap" was in our favor, not the Soviets'.
I have had a suspicion that Davis may have been Obama’s real father...
A lot of people were killed before WWII started by Stalin. A lot of our interest wasn’t in Russia though.
>>I think 20-30 million is closer to Stalin’s real number.<<
I am certain you are correct.
you have GOT to watch these videos of her new book
she nails it on the soviet takeover of the US government under roosevelt and why we never should have let the war go on as we did, could have won it in 43 but intentionally let the soviets get inside germany so they could occupy it
she believes that is exactly why we waited until 44, all following a soviet war doctrine, not a US and Britain war doctrine
https://www.youtube.com/results?filters=long&search_query=diana+west+american+betrayal&lclk=long
I am reading the book “Downfall” which details the last six months of W.W. II and the fight in the Pacific.
It gets into great detail the planning for the invasion of the Japanese Home Islands.
The U.S. was war weary at that point and while there was a great deal of planning to move a large number of European forces to the Pacific for the planned invasion there was also a plan to demobilize as many as 2 Million serviceman per the demands of the citizens and congress.
So don’t blame Truman for gutting the armed services after the war that was going to be demanded by the people.
At the end of the war the U.S. had some 8 to 12 million people in the various branches and that number was going to be severely cut no matter what.
Yeah, it’s funny how dictators think they can overcome God’s nature. Silly tyrants..
Absolutely. Hillary is quite literally a Stalinist.
It had to be a TOUGH CALL. Do you really want to annihilate millions of people to prevent a future, existential, threat?
If we did, would we really be better than the Russians? Listen to Reagan reciting (hysterical) Soviet jokes. It’s clear that the VERY LAST THING he wanted was to snuff out the lives of millions of people that had nothing to do with their war machine.
It was tough back then, but it’s easy now. Russia has Putin, who has upgraded and modernized their military. They can easily defeat us now, if we try any stunts on their side of the globe. Perhaps we work with Putin, rather than causing a global nightmare.
“This is crazy talk. It assumes there would be retaliation. At some point there would be and London could have been nuked.”
You are right. Once nukes became instruments of ‘diplomacy’ between countries, cities would get incinerated.
Personally, I’m PERFECTLY HAPPY that cooler minds prevailed and that the Soviets appreciated the long-term implications of using nukes in relatively minor skirmishes as much as we did.
There was a good program on “The History Channel” a few days ago about the Studebaker Two and a half ton trucks which we supplied to Russia by the tens of thousands. Those trucks were totally responsible for Russian mobility.
At the same time, Germany which is though of as having a technologically advanced army was still using horses as their main transport.
The program stressed that those trucks probably made the difference in the Russians victory and I believe they were right.
Beautiful thing about a centralized power structure like in a communist state is that, if you hit the head (Moscow), the entire structure falls apart.
So a limited nuclear war would have worked to defang the Soviets -— and thus we would not be dealing with the Islamist or 1/2 of the crap that occurred in Africa or South/Central America that still reverberates today.
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