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1 posted on 11/07/2014 9:16:08 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The raptor will shoot it out of the sky before the pilot even sees it.


2 posted on 11/07/2014 9:24:37 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Ebola: Satan's End Game for Humanity.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What a fighter!
Maybe we should order a few?


3 posted on 11/07/2014 9:28:03 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Where are the canards?


7 posted on 11/07/2014 9:36:31 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What’s the big stinger-looking thing on the back end all about? Countermeasures?


11 posted on 11/07/2014 9:42:30 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Would like to see a film...............


12 posted on 11/07/2014 9:42:36 AM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

As an amateur it’s safe for me to talk thrust.

Ivan’s engine 14,500 kgf of thrust equates to about 30,000 pounds of thrust per engine.

The F22 is rated at 35,000 pounds of thrust which also has vectoring. I see no vectoring nozzles on this beast. Ivan also has a history of short engine life. I don’t believe their engine life claim.

Ivan’s hot rod also doesn’t look like light weight so they are probably within a few thousand pounds of each other.


13 posted on 11/07/2014 9:42:50 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
as the jet performed aerobatics that no other jet fighter in the world could touch.

Such as?

25 posted on 11/07/2014 9:54:49 AM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Isn't this rather old news?

This is a rather mature design that the Russkis have been steadily upgrading and flogging all over the globe. It is a pretty damn good plane, though, and very cost effective, just not super up-to-date design.

Also, the Russkis' customers always seem to have maintenance issues, so how many are available to any given air force is always a good question. Same deal with us. 121 F-22s? That seems a ludicrously low number, given the realities of maintenance and the availability factor for any combat aircraft. If an enemy has 100 of these available, on a day when we have 10 F22s available .... that's a problem, no matter how good the F22 might be. Of course, we still have our upgraded versions of F-15s and F-18s, too.

Confusing, this F22-F35 force ratio and the plans for phasing out other aircraft, re-powering B-52's, Stealth Bombers, B-1s, dropping the A-10(The best CAS Weapon system ever)etc. etc. Question Pentagon: Just Where TF are we?

30 posted on 11/07/2014 10:04:37 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Now all the Republicans need is a PROGRAM, A PLAN, and a LEADER!)
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Thanks. The Russians are certainly getting their mileage and worth out of the original SU-27.

Only if the US had been intelligent enough to do the same with the F-15 beyond the aging F-15E.

Suspect the Russians do not have as large a procurement monster dragging everything down either.

38 posted on 11/07/2014 10:47:22 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Russians make some nice looking aircraft while we have fat looking aircraft.


52 posted on 11/07/2014 2:39:29 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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