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The iPhone just lost its perfect security record — now what?
The Verge ^ | 6 Nov 2014 | Russell Brandom

Posted on 11/06/2014 10:14:15 AM PST by for-q-clinton

For most of the iPhone's lifespan, it's been effectively immune to malware. There were theoretical attacks and viruses targeting jailbroken phones, but thanks to the tight controls of the App Store, finding iOS malware in the wild has been nearly impossible. If you didn't jailbreak your phone and you weren’t targeted by the NSA, you simply didn't have to worry about catching a virus.

Yesterday, that changed. A security firm called Palo Alto Networks discovered a malware program they’re calling Wirelurker, which sneaks into computers through unauthorized Chinese apps, then attacks iOS devices when they connect over USB. It’s an obscure line of attack (when’s the last time you actually plugged your iPhone into your computer?), confined to China, and so far the effects have been minimal. The actual payload for non-jailbroken phones was just a test balloon, side-loading a comic book app to prove the attack really worked. Jailbroken phones got a nastier payload, infecting payment apps, but that's to be expected. Last night, Apple blocked the apps, saying "We are aware of malicious software available from a download site aimed at users in China, and we’ve blocked the identified apps to prevent them from launching. As always, we recommend that users download and install software from trusted sources." Less than 24 hours after Palo Alto Networks published its report, Wirelurker appears to be mostly wiped out. Still, that doesn't mean Apple is completely in the clear. The vulnerabilities exploited by Wirelurker will be around for much longer, and could pose a serious threat to Apple's otherwise spotless record. Now that the platform has had its first real virus scare, there's reason to think it won't be the last.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: crap; iphone; malware; security
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To: 5thGenTexan

I don’t want to customise anything. But others that wish to can’t. Sales Success is not a measure of this issue. Thats why people buy them and break them.


101 posted on 11/06/2014 12:37:49 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Feet to the fire folks. YOU PROMISED!)
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To: 5thGenTexan

Oh that early adopter thing. No, they create proprietary things and divide industries and destroy compatability. When USB was young and everyone went with it, they did Firewire. When it became too slow and USB3 was the standard, they created Thunderbolt.

Rinse/Repeat.


102 posted on 11/06/2014 12:40:21 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Feet to the fire folks. YOU PROMISED!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Sales success is a measure of the user satisfaction to get you introduced into our discussion.


103 posted on 11/06/2014 12:42:11 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Norm Lenhart

How did “topic” become “to get” in my last post?


104 posted on 11/06/2014 12:44:35 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: 5thGenTexan

Sales success can be part of the user satisfaction. Plenty of people HAVE to use Apple because they are financially tied to it and they are massively not satisfied as I pointed out in several posts already. They are real people/businesses and they function in the casual user and normal business spheres.


105 posted on 11/06/2014 12:48:45 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Feet to the fire folks. YOU PROMISED!)
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To: 5thGenTexan

Apples faulty spell checker ;)


106 posted on 11/06/2014 12:49:28 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Feet to the fire folks. YOU PROMISED!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Touché! ;-)


107 posted on 11/06/2014 12:54:50 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Norm Lenhart
I'll agree that nothing is secure when you intentionally work around its security model. But until you show me a virus that can be installed by a user following proper (and default) procedures, you're trying to make a point that doesn't exist.
108 posted on 11/06/2014 12:57:11 PM PST by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: TexasGunLover

I know you’re right about that and you can see so many of them on this thread.


109 posted on 11/06/2014 12:57:53 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I struggle with this. How are customers cost-prohibitively locked in to Apple? I get they would need to buy all new versions of apps (like I did in my PC-to-Mac conversion since I chose to not go the Windows in VM route), but cost prohibitive? Can you give me a specific example?
110 posted on 11/06/2014 12:59:56 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: kevkrom

No. People constantly tout the invulnerability of Apple. it is a selling point. Apple people boast of it regularly. I used Apple for years at work and for YEARS people repeated how bulletproof they were. Several crashes a day later I know better. Now, people are mortified that reality reared it’s head on security and another selling point had the lie put to it. Thats all.


111 posted on 11/06/2014 1:00:45 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Feet to the fire folks. YOU PROMISED!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yeah, that’s the ticket. I’m “mortified” because idiots who loaded random unauthorized apps got infected with malware.

Again, show me a case of an actual OS X or iOS virus (not a trojan, a virus) that wasn’t the result of someone intentionally violating their devices’ security by jailbreaking or loading unvetted software.

And forgive me if I don’t hold my breath while I wait.


112 posted on 11/06/2014 1:04:43 PM PST by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: 5thGenTexan

Here’s one example. And there are now a lot of this basic scenario because of the collapse of the big music studios.

Pro Tools is the standard DAW software (replaces a 1/4 million dollae recording console. It is used in nearly ALL pro/semi pro studios today. The HD system is almost exclusive run on Powermacs interfacting to 40K in external DSP with mac coded drivers.

Other software that can run into the 100K range in bigger installations or a couple grand is liscensed for use on their Apple mavhines via TWO standards that are TIED to apple. RTAS and TDM. BOTH were just replaced as significant cost by the AAX standard.

EVERY ONE of these systems would require massive cash to replace with the PV versions because hardware is tied to most of it. APPLE specific hardware.

The studios, years ago went with RTAS/TDM as it was far superior to anything Wintel. The entire business was constructed arounf the platform. Hardware choices were made based on Apple.

Then Apple started the yearly upgrade carousel. Now every mountainlynxyosemitie upgrade REQUIRES cash upgrades to many systems TIED to the APPLE PRO TOOLS core.

And there is really only one way out. Scrap it all and go Cubase on PC and buy a LOT of new hardware. And new software. Because most software companies do not give you multiplatform licensing.

The above is a thumbnail view.


113 posted on 11/06/2014 1:10:33 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Feet to the fire folks. YOU PROMISED!)
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To: Mortimer St. Hubbins

Source: The Verge

The Verge operated by network media Vox Media

Vox Media: Created by environmental activist and liberal political strategist Jerome Armstrong

No bias here. Anti-Apple ills and their counterparts continue to grasping. As if any Apple user though the iOS was “perfect”.

And yet another enlightening if not telling fact:

Other co-founder of Vox Media:

Markos Moulitsas - liberal political activist, founder and publisher of liberal rag Daily Kos, co-founder of SB Nation, also weekly columnist for The Hill, a D.C. publication

Another co-founder of Vox Media:

Co-founder of SB Nation: Tyler Bleszinski

As everyone can clearly see, this threads source is a leftist organization. Nice to know that, for-q-clinton
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Yes, and the above mentioned leftists find no shortage of USEFUL IDIOT Apple Haters here to come (into and and all Apple related threads) and take gratuitous shots at Apple users and Apple products. Poor sufferers of ADS (Apple Derangement Syndrome) don’t realize they are being used as useful idiots.


114 posted on 11/06/2014 1:14:14 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

Read the post over your then search google and tell me anything in it is incorrect.

Are those people making it all up?


115 posted on 11/06/2014 1:18:45 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Feet to the fire folks. YOU PROMISED!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
How is that different from a mechanical design firm being locked in to Wintel today? Which is how it is now, since they were locked in to Sun Microsystems before...

Yes, specialized industries face this, but it is not specific to Apple. When HP merged with Compaq, they inherited a number of businesses who were hopelessly locked into VMS. These were businesses that Compaq had inherited from DEC years before. And their pleading to keep the OS around shifted to the HP Enterprise business.

And from your example, it sounds like the software vendor is a big part of the problem, since other software packages can typically span two of more OS versions on OSX and/or Windows...

116 posted on 11/06/2014 1:24:36 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: 5thGenTexan

Oh and that does not even touch on the cost associated with studio downtime to replace and rewire all that hardware, relearn and retrain staff on new software because Cubase and Pro Tools are vastly different, relearn and buy new software that is NOT multi platform and the costs of losing customers permanantly because you are now NOT using the industry standard.

They are 100% LOCKED into Apple.


117 posted on 11/06/2014 1:24:51 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Feet to the fire folks. YOU PROMISED!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Sorry Norm, I’m not going to engage in tit-for-tat with mindless Apple haters. Please feel free, like a moth mindlessly attracted to the light, to be pulled to Apple threads to post your Apple hatred thoughts. And, I’ll continue to enjoy my Apple products and refrain from frequenting Microsoft and PC threads since I’ve long since fled those products and do not look back.


118 posted on 11/06/2014 1:27:55 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: 5thGenTexan

Much associated and required HARDWARE is not multi.

It is vastly different than enterprise level business here. You are talking 2-20 man operations with 5 or 6 figure budgets that cannot simply deal with the cost.

Had Apple not restructured their hopscotch annual upgrades, much of this could be avoided. They didn’t. They force compliance.


119 posted on 11/06/2014 1:28:18 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Feet to the fire folks. YOU PROMISED!)
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To: House Atreides

Sorry a well reasoned argument is not to your standards.


120 posted on 11/06/2014 1:29:01 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Feet to the fire folks. YOU PROMISED!)
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