Posted on 11/06/2014 6:10:52 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
President Obama summoned his inner Yoda to say, post-Election Day party drubbing and in rather backward grammatical fashion, that no matter how many new Republican faces come to Capitol Hill, he’s not repealing Obamacare.
“On health care, there are certainly some lines I’m going to draw,” he said Wednesday at a White House press conference to respond to the massive Republican wins on both sides of Congress, Newsmax reported. “Repeal of the law, I won’t sign.”
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This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph. Vacations. Heh. Golfing. Heh. A President craves not these things.
I agree with the incremental strategy — Obamacare is like a massive Jenga tower. You don’t have to remove too many features before the thing falls under its own weight. Should be possible to pass small bills that can get veto-proof or near-veto-proof support — such as repeal of the medical device tax, limiting the authority of the “death panels,” allowing insurance companies to issue bare-bones plans that do not have to include all the now-mandatory goodies — and eventually Obamacare will have to be fundamentally changed because it is economically unworkable. No need to fight an unwinnable battle over total repeal; that only gives the Dims a rallying cry for the next election.
I agree, but has to be bills that are important and popular... IF R’s do this and force the veto, they have a solid platform to build on.
If they overplay their hand you wind up back with nothing in 2 years.
Full Repeal should be on his desk within hours of the new congress being sworn in.
Keystone Pipeline should be there the following day
etc etc etc.. should be a bill a day or the very least a bill a week that forces him to veto not because they are bad bills but because he’s a socialist ideologue who will not sign them.
“The GOP doesn’t have a veto-proof majority, . . .”
1) The dirty secret is the big multinational corporations and Wall Street Banks like O’care. They want single payer government paid healthcare so they can get out of the healthcare business. Therefore the GOPe does not want to repeal O’care.
2) McConnell and Boehner will schedule votes to repeal O’care early in 2015. Obama will veto the legislation. McConnell and Boehner will tell the base, “we tried”, now let’s move on.
3) If the GOP actually put a real plan to replace O’care with a free market health care system, with some provision for dealing with pre-existing conditions, the debate and vote could be interesting. Enough Democrats might be persuaded to vote for an alternative to override Obama’s veto, particularly early in 2015 when the large premium hikes being announced during this year’s enrollment period are fresh in the minds of angry constituents.
I doubt the GOP will provide a viable alternative. The GOPe will allow Obama’s veto to stand and wait for the next Democrat president to propose single payer.
No concealed, grandma. Texas Eagle says so.
As I recall, since the ACA was passed via reconcilation, a simple majority vote of both houses repeals the reconciliation report. . . or at least the funding of it.
No funding, no Obamacare. . .
He wasn’t trying to be cool, just trying to speak English without a teleprompter. But I think he should be given credit for at least formulating a grammatically correct English sentence extemporaneously.
We must Newt him...
Won’t sign?
Then, F you!
Override and/or defund.
Next.
After the 2015 increases are announced and hundreds of thousands of policies are cancelled by Jan. 1st, the backlash will be such that the Kenyan Klown will sign anything.
You don't have to, just let it sit on your desk unsigned for 10 days while you posture and preen.
Let's see if this pretender actually has the cojones to actually veto measure after measure of popular proposals the House and Senate will send him.
Put it through and let him veto it!
Realistically, full repeal of Obamacare dies on January 1, 2014, when the subsidies started kicking in. Getting people off of subsidies once they start getting them is theoretically possible, but then, so is the Loch Ness Monster, and more people have credibly reported seeing the latter.
So, the best approach I’ve heard yet is to remove the mandatory nature of Obamacare and pass a suite of market-based reform measure allowing full choice in the insurance industry, while letting anyone who WANTS to stay on Obamacare do so.
Or, in other words, “if you like your Obamacare, you can keep your Obamacare.”
As more people lose their doctor and their plan and also have the premiums and deductibles raised.
Let that pot stew for a while.
And let the Big O be stewed as well trying to defend the indefensible.
Our esteemed Dem senator “Obama Joe” Donnelly was on local radio yesterday asking “what will we say to the millions who will lose coverage if we repeal the ACA?’
Well Joe, what do you say to the 100 million or more who got screwed by it?
I have read that the GOP plan, as it is so far, is to expect Obama to veto the repeal, but to then have a set of changes lined up that will seriously lessen the impact and in fact may make Obamacare unenforceable. There’s also some talk that many Dems don’t like Obamacare and know that it was one of the things that took them down, so it may not be an entirely impossible dream that the veto could be overridden. We shouldn’t give up immediately!
He calls it “Health Care”, the thing the other guy wants to take away from you.
Control the language, control the message. The fact that Obamacare doesn’t work isn’t even part of the discussion.
They trumpet that 8 Million People now have Coverage thanks to Obamacare, without mentioning the 6 Million (like my Wife and I) that LOST their existing Plans because of Obamacare.
We had to find a new Plan, so we are included in the Newly Covered 8 Million People statistic. Up is down...
Make him veto it. Make the Democrats OWN the chaos in 2016.
Don’t fund it. Period. Same with any EO on amnesty: don’t fund it and do fund the executive branch. The time for playing nice is over. The country is at stake.
Never underestimate the power of greed and incumbency.
There are enough democrat fascists who want to stay in office in spite of Caliph Obama that there may be a way to get enough votes to over ride a veto. The real question is whether or not a vote to override such a veto would come up if such a bill is passed then vetoed.
Unless someone forces the issue and brings a vote to override to the floor you can't really know whether or not it can be overridden. It's easy for a democrat to say, "I won't vote to override", when asked but much more difficult for that same democrat to stand up and vote against an override on a roll-call vote.
JMHo
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