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Marijuana profits up in smoke under ITS rules [link only]
USA Today [link only] | November 4, 2014 | Katie Kuntz

Posted on 11/04/2014 1:12:54 PM PST by grundle

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/03/irs-limits-profits-marijuana-businesses/18165033


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: cannabis; conservingdependency; potheads
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Liberals, who are normally in favor of taxes and against profits, are being total hypocrites when it comes to marijuana.
1 posted on 11/04/2014 1:12:54 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

Oops! I meant IRS, not ITS.


2 posted on 11/04/2014 1:13:23 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

The more doped up you are the more likely you are to favor taking other people’s money to pay for you being a loafer, a wastrel, a bum, a do-nothing pothead. It all make sense, really.


3 posted on 11/04/2014 1:14:28 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: grundle

I see legal grass similar to casino gambling.
So lucrative for the state revenue that legislators can’t resist.
And the first ones in (in any geographic locale) tend to make the most money.


4 posted on 11/04/2014 1:15:27 PM PST by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: elhombrelibre

And you’ll vote for whomever promises to keep the drugs flowing.

Makes the populous easy to control too — when they are in a drug induced stupor.


5 posted on 11/04/2014 1:19:34 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: nascarnation

Exactly. Until the lawyers realize that huge lawsuits can be had because of the harmful effects of smoking.

Then the States will pretend that they didn’t know and are shocked, absolutely shocked!!, and will will be in line to get their cut of the litigation pie.

Read about the tobacco lawsuits. If the pot growers, producers and retails are smart they’d learn all about tobacco.

One thing about pot — it has been underground until very recently. Now that legit businesses are involved, it changes the game.


6 posted on 11/04/2014 1:27:48 PM PST by dhs12345
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7 posted on 11/04/2014 1:29:09 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: dhs12345

I think the pot growers will be savvy enough to avoid this.
Basically by staying small and flexible.

Big tobacco only got hammered because it was big. If we had 2000 tobacco companies supplying the market, they just would have declared bankruptcy, dissolved, and started over.


8 posted on 11/04/2014 1:31:23 PM PST by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: grundle

So if you buy pot, you are actually giving 80% of the purchase price to the government. What a joke.


9 posted on 11/04/2014 1:44:04 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ DEFUND OBAMA! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$)
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To: nascarnation
Big Tobacco is still Big Tobacco, it didn't go bankrupt. Tobacco and liquor sales are cash cows for governments. If they were to go out of business, it would create revenue shortfalls in every state in the nation.

Taxing sin is popular - you can make a lot of money and claim the moral high ground - so I really don't think the IRS intends to drive cannabis sellers out of business. CO saw a new revenue stream and tapped into it, and the Fed wants its cut too. They'll tax whatever the traffic will bear. They'll know they've reached that point when sales go flat and smuggling is rampant - just like tobacco and liquor.

I know it's cynical to say "It's all about money" but it really is (at least in this case).

10 posted on 11/04/2014 1:56:47 PM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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Big tobacco truly was “too big to fail”

The settlement money is an ongoing gravy train for states. The numbers are huge.

But I think marijuana will remain “Small Marijuana” because business people will learn from what happened with tobacco. There will be too much risk with a large consolidated grass supply company.


11 posted on 11/04/2014 2:01:52 PM PST by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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I think marijuana will remain “Small Marijuana”

I tend to agree, if only because of the way the tax law reads. The article stated that cost of production (growing it) can be deducted like any normal business, but any other overhead (salesmen's salaries, administration, brick and mortar) are NOT deductible, because the product is a class I controlled substance. It's to the owner's advantage to keep his worker's hands in the soil, rather than behind a desk (or sales counter). Limited administration and minimal sales floor space implies a small company...

12 posted on 11/04/2014 2:26:49 PM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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duuuuudddde.. legalize and like tax it and stuff. think of all the money we’ll save from laying off cops man.. it’s free enterprise man.. the government can regulate it man.. Bob can make a profit man..

wait, gubmint regulations are making it more expensive than when I buy it from bob? why should I buy the gubmint weed then?


13 posted on 11/04/2014 2:33:39 PM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: nascarnation

Good point.

But you can run but you can’t hide when big government is after you.

Also, it will help if they stop trying to convince people that pot is not harmful. That is what nailed the tobacco companies. And when asked, refer to some government study and with a “use at your own risk” disclaimer or something. Like the alcohol companies.


14 posted on 11/04/2014 2:56:22 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: ZOOKER

Exactly.

And don’t let some politician claim that they are just protecting the folks.... and at the same time making money off of the sale in the form of taxes.

Total BS. It IS all about the money.


15 posted on 11/04/2014 2:58:45 PM PST by dhs12345
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Marijuana tax/sin/protection money is the opium for politicians and lawyers.
16 posted on 11/04/2014 5:25:56 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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it will help if they stop trying to convince people that pot is not harmful.

Who's trying to do that - anyone who's in the selling business?

17 posted on 11/05/2014 9:16:48 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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The more doped up you are the more likely you are to favor taking other people’s money

Only this story is about government taking pot sellers' money - who will presumably pass the cost along to pot smokers, who will thus be giving and not taking money.

18 posted on 11/05/2014 9:19:57 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

They certainly couldn’t be that stupid. For their sake.


19 posted on 11/05/2014 9:35:25 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: ConservingFreedom

You never answered if you favor prostitution under your legalize everything pot pipe dream.


20 posted on 11/05/2014 10:22:06 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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