[nathanbedford]

In accordance with the Maxim, nations have no permanent friends only permanent interests, I have long called for a reassessment of our relationship with Israel specifically to answer the question, what do we get out of it? I have long believed that the relationship costs us far more than we gain in allying ourselves with six or 8 million people tenaciously hanging onto a small stretch of coastline against hundreds of millions of pathologically bloodthirsty Arabs who control (ed) most of the world's oil.

I still think that reassessment is in order but I do not think that Obama's passive aggressive actions against Israel are in any way in order. Our relationship with Israel is a commitment which must be honored so long as it exists and it must be "honored" in an honorable way. Evidently, Obama is doing neither.

Moreover, the linchpin of danger in the Middle East does not turn on Israel but turns right now on Iran in its acquisition of nuclear weapons and delivery systems. Israel recognizes this threat and Obama is trying his best to deceive the American people while he enables Iran to get the bomb. This will be a strategic disaster for the United States and, of course, for Israel, not to mention for the world. It is an interesting question whether Israel is too "chicken" to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities or whether they have been covertly intimidated out of such an action by the Obama administration. If the later is in fact the case it would be a clear example of Obama's passive aggressive antagonism toward Israel.

It is increasingly clear that Obama not only condones but covertly supports Islam in its war against the West and the West includes Israel as well as the United States. We can only speculate about Obama's motives, but they probably have to do with him detesting America because of its role in frustrating the final victory of utopian socialism. He believes America is the font of evil in the world and the enemy of his enemy is his friend, at least temporarily. It might even be that Obama is a covert Muslim, perhaps of Louis Farrakhan stripe, or some other stripe presently festering in the black "community."

We must also concede the possibility that Obama is simply appeasing Islam because of the color of their skins.

Whatever our future commitments to Israel, they should be openly arrived at and the American people should understand the great costs entailed in supporting Israel, all as outlined by former CIA operative in charge of Osama bin Laden, who specifically cites the American support of Israel and our presence in Arab lands as motivation for Islam's attacks on America. We have to accept that he may be right about this and, so warned, we must knowingly court the terrorism of Islam as the price we pay for our support of Israel. It is one thing to do that consciously and it is quite another thing for the United States to engage in its relationship with Israel because of domestic political considerations and the power of the Israeli lobby with the general public unaware of the price tag attached.

The question is not whether Israel is our friend, the question is where lie America's national interests.

[fso301]

all as outlined by former CIA operative in charge of Osama bin Laden, who specifically cites the American support of Israel and our presence in Arab lands as motivation for Islam's attacks on America. We have to accept that he may be right about this

Israel must not be allowed to go the way of Lebanon. If Israel was Hindu, the Arabs would be at constant war with it. If Israel was Buddhist, the Arabs would be at constant war with it. If Israel was Animist, the Arabs would be at constant war with it.

When one steps back and looks across mohammedom, one sees that wherever mohammedanism meets other belief systems, there is constant conflict.

[Beagle8U]

” It is an interesting question whether Israel is too “chicken” to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities or whether they have been covertly intimidated out of such an action by the Obama administration.”

I think I read that Israel would need our help with fueling to do that. They don’t have air tankers large enough or something like that?

[American Constitutionalist]

As far as the perspective from God’s point of view is ? “ those who bless Israel , I will bless, those who curse Israel I will curse.” .....
If America’s interest are it’s survival , protection and blessing from the God of Israel, America should protect, bless, and not go down this road against Israel that it’s currently heading.

[rbg81]

It is not in our interest to let the West be colonized by Muslims. That is the crux of many of our problems and the reason for the increasing appeasement of Islam you see in the West.

Unfortunately, short of civil war and genocide, I don’t see this turning around. Though, eventually, it will come to that.

Throwing Israel to the wolves will only embolden the Islamists.

[refermech]

Well, there is the matter of securing the free flow of oil. This is the elephant in the living room. Since we now are producing a lot more oil perhaps the calculus will change. The real question, will we eventually forsake Israel because the costs are too high to defend her?