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26 Russian fighter pilot in two days [Putin war games]
http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/sekunden-koennen-entscheiden-wie-gefaehrlich-sind-putins-flugmanoever-fuer-passagierflieger_id_4238719.html ^

Posted on 10/30/2014 6:04:15 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

26 Russian fighter pilot in two days, seconds can decide - How dangerous are Putin's maneuvers for the passenger planes

Today Russians Vani on the Baltic Sea got fierce criticism from NATO, as well as shut down the aircraft sensors to systems on the ground and other aircraft to identify who or what is in front of them. 4 German interceptor observed and saw off Russian fighter group to these ojlopy not encountered by passenger aircraft. the Germans were said to one of the most powerful Russian squadrons, consisting of two MiG-31 Foxhound, two Su-34 Fullback, one Su-27 Flanker und two Su-24 Fencer until they withdrew at a sufficient distance from Europe. air space. According to German media this ernâ continues with this Tuesday over areas of the North, Baltic and black seas. a total of German and European interceptors such group 4yre was composed of 26 military aircraft. among them were even TU-95 are capable of carrying nuclear weapons


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To: McGruff

Yeah, they wouldn’t roll over for the Soviets....er, Russians.


21 posted on 10/31/2014 5:33:55 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: McGruff

No... The Russian people are NOT looking for aggression against other nations. Rather, Putin-la,la,la,la is to blame! LOL
[BTW, thus is the naughtiest response I ever made! Please forgive my self-indulgence. I will be good now]


22 posted on 10/31/2014 5:34:55 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: AppyPappy; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Bender2

Mom, I appreciate your articles, but Bender has a point. When a headline makes ZERO sense, you should make it make sense or don’t post it until you can.

As it reads, it looks like you’re bragging about maybe “entertaining” 26 Russian fighter pilots in two days during a war game exercise. Syntax means something.


23 posted on 10/31/2014 5:57:25 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
to previous deaths of in crash with civilian flight.

Reads like the headline. And of course they were doing the Russian equivalent of MARSA, anytime there is formation flight there is reduced separation,even if it is 'same way same day'.

24 posted on 10/31/2014 6:04:35 AM PDT by xone
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; big'ol_freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Larry Lucido; Diplomat; ...
Re: I didn’t “snark” or lie. Entire title not allowed per space so indicated content...

Gadzooks, Mom-- Just where did your 26 Russian fighter pilot in two days come out of "Seconds to decide - How dangerous are Putin's maneuvers for the passenger planes?"

Hey, I drink my breakfast every morning... what is your excuse?

25 posted on 10/31/2014 6:13:24 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2; big'ol_freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Larry Lucido; Diplomat
26 russische Kampfflieger in zwei Tagen [subheading] Sekunden können entscheiden - So gefährlich sind Putins Flugmanöver für Passagierflieger BING TRANSLATE: Subheading: 26 Russian fighters in two days Seconds can decide - as Putin's flight maneuvers for passenger pilots are dangerous True foreign language syntaxdiffers from English. P.S. I tell my hubby caffeine is not good for you. As for me, my Mom is 94 with Alzheimer's‎ so I do my best with little sleep. But, I think info is of significant worth regardless of critiques
26 posted on 10/31/2014 6:37:30 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

BTW VIDEO below article at LINK: http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/sekunden-koennen-entscheiden-wie-gefaehrlich-sind-putins-flugmanoever-fuer-passagierflieger_id_4238719.html

BING TRANSLATION:

26 Russian fighters in two days, seconds can decide - as Putin’s flight maneuvers for passenger pilots are dangerous
Thursday, 30.10.2014, 20:00 · by FOCUS-online-editor Charlotte Zink

NATO raises the alarm: within two days hunted 26 Russian fighters over East - and North Sea and the Atlantic Ocean and the Black Sea. This is not prohibited. However, the flights were not partially logged and unreachable for the ATC. An expert explains the dangers for civilian air traffic.

Exceptionally extensive maneuvers, the Russian air force upset NATO: the Alliance has intercepted four groups with a total of 26 Russian aircraft on Tuesday and Wednesday.

The Russian long-range bombers, fighter jets and tanker aircraft were the Black Sea and the Atlantic Ocean in the usage over the Baltic Sea, the North Sea, it was called by NATO. The maneuver of the bomber was legal. Nevertheless, bring also a risk many jets in the sky. NATO warned that the cold jet fighters could endanger even for civilian passenger and cargo aircraft.
Pilots remain without warning just a few seconds to avoid

The reason: The Russian military would partially before the manoeuvre not filed flight plans, yet there had been radio contact between pilots of military and civilian air traffic controllers. Pilots of the German air traffic control had attempted to contact the unknown flying objects, Axel Raab says of the Deutsche Flugsicherung (DFS) to FOCUS online. “The Russian bombers have not replied of course.”

The pilot Markus Wahl FOCUS online said what are the risks of lack of radio contact with it brings. “If remain the pilots to fly two aircraft without warning with a slow ground speed of 800 kilometres per hour, only a few seconds to avoid”, choice, the trade unionists of the Association’s cockpit.
Transponders transmit important information to the flight

NATO had criticized when the bombers had been switched off in part tag. These provide important air traffic controllers information to an airplane, such as about the ID or the type automatic signals. With this information, air traffic controllers can warn pilots of other machines.

“The Russian military has ignored important security mechanisms. He says without flying tag in civil airspace is to driving around in the car with defective belt system”. “There must not necessarily happen, but it can”, so choice.
Fallback system does not work without signals

The behavior of the Russian military considers reckless choice: “Russian military aircraft with transponders turned off unannounced fly in civilian airspace, which increases the risk for accidents unnecessarily.”

A transponder signal is important not only for the air traffic controllers on the ground. It was also necessary to work the avoidance system on board an aircraft which is designed to prevent collisions, explains choice. “The system only works if both machines have turned on their transponder, otherwise it can not capture the machines, and not warn pilots.”
The Russian military would have to announce maneuvers

Also, an airplane without the signal run risk of being overlooked because it would not appear on the primary radar by air traffic controllers: these radars were “a completely outdated technology”, so choice. Formerly they were used solely for air surveillance, today it relies firstly on the transponder signals.

On the primary radar will be shown only imprecisely, that there is a flying object in the sky. The Russian military had therefore to announce his maneuver and machines for air traffic control must make it clearly visible, is choice.
“You can never rule out a collision”

Against the law the military not acted however: “The Russian military must leave no plans before flight maneuvers, switch the transponder or radio contact with air traffic control”, clarifies Raab of the DFS.

He estimates a low the risk of an accident: “one can never completely rule out a collision in civil aviation does not”, he says FOCUS online. However, the probability of a collision between a Russian fighter jet and an airliner was “extremely low”.
Tragic accident after misinformation

What happens if pilots can not rely on warnings from air traffic controllers, it has become clear in 2002 in a tragic collision of Überlingen. A DHL machine and a passenger plane were collided because the pilot had not previously seen the collision. The collision warning system in the control center had not funkti due to maintenance work


27 posted on 10/31/2014 7:06:37 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Bender2

IQ not necessary to post...


28 posted on 10/31/2014 7:22:51 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Korean Air Lines Flight 007.

No need to say more.


29 posted on 10/31/2014 7:59:55 AM PDT by null and void (And I think Kevin Bacon is doomed.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; ...
My heart goes out to you for dealing with your 94-year mother. I assume you are of my generation (born 1947) where you do not abandon parents to "old folks' homes" at the first sign of old age. I went through that with both my Grandmother and later with my Mother and it was a long 25-year struggle, so I full well understand and sympathize--

However, when you post an article on FR, please make the headline one that invites readers and says something about the post. Your "26 Russian fighter pilot in two days [Putin war games]" one does not do any justice to the information in the article and if a reader has to guess what a post is about, they may well pass on it and all your effort goes for nothing--

Take care and God Bless

30 posted on 10/31/2014 12:29:36 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: GeronL

“The 80’s called... yada, yada, yada..”


31 posted on 10/31/2014 12:40:11 PM PDT by PfromHoGro (Don't audit me bro!!!)
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To: Bender2; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad

I am 64 married 43 years. Very difficult day today... don’t know why I even tried to post. Sorry, I chose GOOGLE over BING to translate... but I insist ANYONE could research further if confused.
Still, I felt important to inform of Putin’s latest hijinks. I only heard a little discussion with Charles Krauthammer on FOX “Special Report with Bret Baier”last night. Krauthammer: “Putin is like Hitler but he’s more subtle and weaker.”

VERY GOOD Insightful: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/30/krauthammer-putin-is-like-hitler-but-hes-more-subtle-and-weaker/


32 posted on 10/31/2014 1:06:43 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: tcrlaf

“Imagine how terrified the pols must be of looking at have to cut Social Welfare in favor of an increased military budget, to counter Russia.?”

Jesus Christ on the bike, who the hell pols are :))) ?


33 posted on 11/12/2014 5:06:52 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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