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‘No Refusal’ Police Blood Test Checkpoint Protested by Concerned Citizens
Counter Current News ^ | 25 Oct 2014 | Jackson Marciana

Posted on 10/27/2014 10:02:35 AM PDT by relictele

The Springfield Police Department, along with the Clark County Sheriff’s Department and Ohio State Highway Patrol were in for a big surprise last night when members of a local “Cop Block” chapter turned up to warn drivers about the disturbing “sobriety” checkpoint that was set up.

The Clark County OVI Task Force said that their sobriety checkpoint was a “no refusal” inspection of drivers, to “make sure no one’s out drinking and driving,” an officer with the Springfield Police told us. The checkpoint was conducted at State Route 40 and State Route 68 in Clark County and began at 8:00 p.m.

At this “no refusal” checkpoint, every car was checked, regardless of the absence of any probable cause to stop and inspect.

Police said that the checkpoint also sees a lot of ticketing for seatbelt violations, which again are inspected without probable cause. “There is zero tolerance for any offense,” and officer with the Sheriff’s Department said.

Most disturbing to many citizens was the mention of forced blood extraction by a nurse who waited on standby for officers to give her the word. A media contact with the Sheriff’s Department told Counter Current News that they still have to obtain a warrant in order to take blood. But that is something that they were ready to do. If a driver refused to consent to a breathalyzer test or field sobriety test, then officers would call for a warrant and the restrained and arrested driver would then forcibly have their blood extracted by the nurse on standby at the checkpoint.

Members of a local Dayton, Ohio Cop Block chapter set up down the street from this checkpoint, and another 30 miles away last night. They held signs that warned drivers to turn around to avoid the police “vampire” checkpoint.

Hundreds of drivers took their advice and turned away, much to the dismay of the officers at the check point. That’s when Springfield Police called in Detective Beau Collins, who showed up, shining his blinding cruiser light in their faces, and trying to intimidate the activists.

Watch the video below, where Detective Collins tries to tell the protesters that they must leave the sidewalk, but gets “Cop Blocked” instead. It all starts around 4:30 in the video, when Collins pulls up.

Watch the Springfield Police Chief, in another video from last night, saying that Americans are not allowed to travel without a vehicle!

These checkpoints are about ticket revenue and power, not about protecting us from drunk drivers. Should your travel be interrupted, and your car and demeanor inspected by police when they have no probable cause that you have done anything wrong?

When we stand up to these bullying checkpoints, they lose their power. If you enjoy seeing cops who are violating the law and Constitution get shut down, then SPREAD THE WORD!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; checkpoints; dui; ohio
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To: Yashcheritsiy

For later.


41 posted on 10/27/2014 10:40:14 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to Repeal and Replace the Republican Party)
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To: morphing libertarian

“I think if they run a breathalyzer on off-duty cops it would be the best place to start.”

off-duty? How ‘bout On duty!


42 posted on 10/27/2014 10:43:08 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: jonno

The law & order types (COPs included) would fair poorly if it were applied as they wish. Who is faultless when it comes to the law? What they’re saying is you must be faultless but we get a pass. Thats not the way it works...or not the way it should work.


43 posted on 10/27/2014 10:43:34 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: V_TWIN

I can see the roll calls now.


44 posted on 10/27/2014 10:43:38 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: V_TWIN

Let’s set up a citizen checkpoint and pull the cops over.


45 posted on 10/27/2014 10:44:28 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Prospero

>>I’ll choose my own battles and the ground to do battle on, however. You can count on it.<<

The toughest one is probably not allowing a search of your vehicle.

But that is a hill worth protecting.

I am pretty sure I would NOT both stand my ground (which was fine) as the guy in the video did AND insult the cops — the latter was uncalled for and ruins the entire point he is trying to make.

As you said — pick your battles carefully but fight them to the bitter end.


46 posted on 10/27/2014 10:48:40 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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To: Truth29

Without your permission, being stabbed with a needle amounts to nothing less than assault with a deadly weapon. The things that could go wrong are staggering.


47 posted on 10/27/2014 10:54:20 AM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: relictele

This is a disturbing story, but keep in mind that Counter Current News is a leftwing site with extreme anti-Israeli sentiments. Just as The New York Times can spin or phony-up a story, so can these people.


48 posted on 10/27/2014 10:55:15 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: jonno

“How about zero tolerance(!) for violations of our constitutional rights?

I wonder how that would fly...”

We (the people there), are letting this happen and approving of it. Approving by electing the people into office who carried it out.


49 posted on 10/27/2014 10:56:15 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: 556x45
The law & order types (COPs included) would fair poorly if it were applied as they wish. Who is faultless when it comes to the law? What they’re saying is you must be faultless but we get a pass. Thats not the way it works...or not the way it should work.

From Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged:

"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”

50 posted on 10/27/2014 11:00:04 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Agreed...the rest of their content is rather dodgy and embraces the usual freshman dorm simple-mindedness.

Cop Block have been featured on a variety of sites as well as their own (?).


51 posted on 10/27/2014 11:06:45 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: chajin
This is an honest question...what would you consider to be constitutionally valid, and also effective, method(s) that police may take to remove DUI/DWI drivers from public roads?

In United States criminal law, probable cause is the standard by which an officer or agent of the law has the grounds to obtain a warrant for, or as an exception to the warrant requirements for, making an arrest or conducting a personal or property search, etc. when criminal charges are being considered. It is also used to refer to the standard to which a grand jury believes that a crime has been committed. This term comes from the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution:

52 posted on 10/27/2014 11:07:46 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“Some things, like these “checkpoints” (next step? papers please), are about intimidation and attitude conditioning more than revenue.”

I don’t know. The current DA in San Antonio is all for that crap. And she is just full of numbers about how many were caught, how many convicted, etc, etc. Do the math on those numbers, and it seems pretty profitable.

And about as worthless as most of the other traffic enforcement.

Most of us professional drunks know all the back ways to take home. They are never going to set up check points there because of the lack of traffic (and therefore, profit!).


53 posted on 10/27/2014 11:08:29 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: relictele

After looking at the pro-Hamas, borderline anti-Semitic stories at your source, I have doubts about the trustworthiness of this one.


54 posted on 10/27/2014 11:18:07 AM PDT by Cymbaline ("Allahu Akbar": Arabic for "Nothing To See Here" - Mark Steyn)
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To: relictele

sorry Leos, 4th Amendment. I just can’t support forceably drawing body fluids at the side of the road on the whim. Citizens authorized breathalizers and that’s all you guys get.

Forceably penetrating a vein and withdrawing blood is wayyyyy beyond the pale of peeing in a cup so that chemical companies can turn that ‘free’ pee into profit drugs.


55 posted on 10/27/2014 11:45:45 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: relictele
Seat belts were always a secondary thing - I just mentioned that we had them on. They didn't wake up the 2 teens and dog in the back seat - just checking to see if the driver had been drinking. Didn't even ask for ID. Since I don't drink it didn't really bother me. As far as I remember, they did check every driver, but, at least in my case, they took a verbal "no" and that was it.
56 posted on 10/27/2014 11:49:54 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: DonaldC
Just claim you recently returned from Africa and say “leave me the hell alone”.

They're too stupid to know what that implies.

57 posted on 10/27/2014 11:50:27 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Cymbaline

What specifically are you questioning about this particular report? Have you located non-confirmatory information?


58 posted on 10/27/2014 11:52:36 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: chajin
This is an honest question...what would you consider to be constitutionally valid, and also effective, method(s) that police may take to remove DUI/DWI drivers from public roads?

All the kings horses asses have done NOTHING to get DUI off the road. If they crash, throw the book at them. If they don't, no problem. Innocent till crime is committed is how it works.

59 posted on 10/27/2014 12:11:19 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: relictele

The website for this article is extremely anti-Semitic.


60 posted on 10/27/2014 12:13:09 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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