Posted on 10/27/2014 8:44:23 AM PDT by Olog-hai
Shiite militias, linked to the Iranian government, continue to commit war crimes and human rights abuses in Iraq in retribution to attacks by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), according to a report by Amnesty International.
Reports suggest that these militias, which the Iraqi government is reportedly dependent on, are being funded and supported by Iranian authorities. …
(Excerpt) Read more at english.alarabiya.net ...
What Iran needs is a good ol fashion @$$ whoopin.
That's a win win for us, if we can keep from muddling the situation in Iraq, and get more of us Infidels killed.-Tom
Nope. The Caliphate won’t destroy itself for our benefit, whether led by ISIS or Iran.
I did not mention a Caliphate, I was addressing the thread.
We have two of our enemies fighting against each other and we should avoid stopping that by getting our soldiers in the middle of it. We have to pick and chose our battles over there to suit our best interests.
Not that I have much faith in Obama and Kerry doing the right thing for this country. -Tom.
Didn’t say you mentioned the Caliphate. However, the players referred to here mention it all the time.
We don’t have two enemies fighting each other; just a squabble over supremacy. The victor will not have forgotten the Great Satan.
ISIS is Sunni. Iran and the old government of Iraq are Shiite.
ISIS is coming down on Shiite Baghdad. Iran is backing the Shiite militia who are fighting ISIS. When they beat an ISIS group, they shoot them. Just as when ISIS wins, they behead and shoot the Shiite.
When the Iraqi government goes on the run after the fall of Baghdad, the Iranians will fill the vacuum.
This should not be news to anyone who has been paying attention.
Picking sides in this part of the world is a sketchy business at best. Horrible at worst.
The Turks will never allow the Kurds to win. We like both of them.
The Turks want Assad to Loose, so they will back ISIS.
Iran will not allow ISIS to win. We hate ISIS. The Iraqis are on both sides, depending on their assessment of the heir of Muhammad.
The Saudis like what ISIS is doing, as they are just as whacked as ISIS. But, they cannot look like they are. Plus, ISIS thinks they are hypocrites.
There is nothing good going on there.
To have Amnesty International voicing an opinion is, actually, laughable.
You should read what I wrote more closely.
That is what I have basically been saying. If they are not at each others throats they will eventually be at ours. And they will be.
According to their religion they should be at our throats.-tom
They can be at each other’s throats and ours at the same time. They will never forget about their primary target. Thinking that having them fight each other will keep them away from us is what liberals hope, falsely; don’t get sucked into that manner of thinking. George Washington indicated in one of his speeches that war readiness is a characteristic of a free nation.
That’s where a lot of the dovish thinking comes from; people like AI.
Iraq has been a proxy-war venue between Shi’ite militias and terrorists - many of whom are helped in one way or another by Iran, on one side, and Sunni militants and terrorists - many of whom are helped one way or another by Saudi Arabia and some to the Gulf States, on the other side.
That proxy war was quelled the most, after a heroic struggle, as long as the U.S. stayed the course and in doing so stayed the middle-course between them, in “a plague on both your houses approach” in Iraq.
Under Maliki and minus Obama, that dynamic changed. Maliki, untethered to the U.S. and minus any U.S. leverage, began governing more like a Shi’ite and less an Iraqi, and Iraqi Sunnis that had trusted the U.S. even handedness did not see even handedness under Maliki. The Sunni-Shia sectarian divide worsened so much under Maliki that when ISIS came calling, they found willing Sunnis to join them.
Yes, Iran is “stirring up trouble in Iraq”, so are the Saudis and others; anyone interested in promoting the Sunni-Shia divide for their own purposes.
Iraqis, whether Shia or Sunni who are uninterested in the Sunni-Shia divide can reject the proxy war going on in Iraq, if they want to and if there are enough of them that want to. If there is not enough that won’t reject it, the others will be drawn in whether they like it or not, if they have not before then left Iraq.
> Shiite militias, linked to the Iranian government, continue to commit war crimes and human rights abuses in Iraq... these militias, which the Iraqi government is reportedly dependent on, are being funded and supported by Iranian authorities.
That “continue to” is due to the fact that the Iraqi Shiite regime had been carrying those out, but lost its grip and its army. Thanks Olog-hai.
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