Posted on 10/27/2014 3:03:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
An emergency room nurse who treated Thomas Eric Duncan said in an interview broadcast Sunday night that the first person to die of Ebola in the U.S. was not honest about his exposure to the deadly virus.
Sidia Rose told “60 Minutes” that Duncan said during his second trip to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas that he had not been in contact with anyone who had been sick.
“I explained to him, ‘We are under the impression that you may have been exposed to Ebola.’ And I said, ‘Where are you from?’ And he told me Liberia,” she said.
“And I asked ‘Have you been in contact with anyone who's been sick?’ ”
“No. He said no,” Rose said.
Rose said Duncan then told her that his family had suffered a loss in Liberia. Duncan added that his daughter, who had died in childbirth, did not have Ebola, however.
Rose said Duncan later denied that story, about his travels and the death of his pregnant daughter, to Texas state health officials.
Nurses in the emergency room and intensive care unit also described efforts to protect themselves from Ebola as well as Duncan’s final days.
Rose said her neck was exposed during her initial questioning of Duncan in the emergency room, adding that Centers for Disease Control and Prevention protocols were deficient.
Rose also described Duncan as “very kind and appreciative.”
“Even something as simple as me just giving him cold wash cloth to cool his face down because his fever wasn't breaking-- even that he was grateful for. He told me thanks,” she said.
Rose said she’s passed the 21-day monitoring period for her contact with Duncan but is still being monitored for possible exposure from Nina Pham, a nurse who treated Duncan and contracted Ebola.
“I've been asymptomatic. My temperature has been rock solid,” she said.
I think the biggest mistake is to bend over backwards in supposition that this man couldn’t have, or only lied because.... or any of a hundred other suppositions. We have accounts from 4 nurses now who were volunteers to treat him.
Here’s the bottom line: you get sick or feel the onset, you are in a country where that could be death, and you had touched someone. Step up your plans and get on a plane to where somebody (US Healthcare) can take excellent care of you, all the while not trying to instill the idea you know/knew what’s going on.
Finally, I would like to make this one musing. This man came here and within 9 days died a horrible death. From what I know about other infections found here, most, if not all have recovered, some in very quick time. 21 Days, that magic number. Actually part of a curve of experienced rates and incubation times that includes outliers ranging much less than and significantly more than that 21 days.
One could assume if he told the truth, that he was part of that low outlier data set. Or, it could be the reverse and the contact was earlier than he said. Regardless, the nurses’ account indicate he obfuscated or he outright lied.
I thought that DWB doctor and CDC nurse looked a little black.......
It really isn't inexplicable at all. If he restricts travel, he is admitting that border enforcement is workable and beneficial to Americans. He's willing to expose the country to Ebola to strengthen the case for amnesty.
I will be honest, and I hope he doesn’t, for the sake of keeping fears of the New Jersey people at a minimum, however, it’s important to be as ready as you can be for the worst. Regardless of what happens, I am not going into the downtown of the big cities anytime soon, or traveling long distances by air, until I am pretty sure that this issue is out in the U.S.. I will talk long distance with any family I have over in Arizona and Wyoming, it’s not perfect, but the less risk, the better.
Here is another scenario. Mr. Duncan may have assumed that once he was admitted to a US hospital, and received the best healthcare in the world, recovery would ensue. He then faced two possible futures. One in which he knowingly brought Ebola to a formerly Ebola-free country, and one in which he did it entirely unknowingly/by accident. I.e.: one bleak w, so far as he knew, possible legal repercussions, & one in which he could blamelessly pursue his plans for marriage and permanent US residency.
Every single early report stated as fact that Duncan & the others were trying desperately to get the pregnant woman into the ***Ebola*** ward of the hospital, NOT the maternity ward. After the ‘Duncan was totally innocent’ meme emerged, a whole lot of whitewashing went on. [Though even then, no one claimed the pregnant woman in a life-threatening crisis was turned away from the ***maternity*** ward because it was full; the story that she was turned away from the *Ebola* ward because it was full remains unchallenged.] Doesn’t take a mind-reader to see what happened. Liberia said they would charge Duncan with a crime, & suddenly ‘things changed’.
I have a trip coming up next week, to OKC. Frankly, this will be my very last trip on a commercial airliner, ever.
That largely opens the rationale for more border restrictions, not less. The disease over the border problem is dangerous, even ultimately for the immigrants themselves. A lot of these people, who live in not so great living conditions, will be people at high vulnerability to a lot of diseases, not just ebola.
‘If [Obama] restricts travel, he is admitting that border enforcement is workable and beneficial to Americans. He’s willing to expose the country to Ebola to strengthen the case for amnesty.’
+1
[Also, Obama is constitutionally unable to bring himself to ‘discriminate’ against his fellow African countrymen. He would far rather compromise the health & lives of the evil white/American Colonialists than discriminate against innocent black people.]
Well, you are technically correct. My use of ‘inexplicable’ really regard his and his lackeys’ inane explanations of why the routes need to be open. Utter nonsense.
Same for me, my little sister works for a church charity in getting people easy dental work in Columbia and Brazil. However, getting her home from the airport will be the exception. If she had to deal with quarantine, given her love for wilderness low-tech camp life, I feel it’s likely she wouldn’t whine like the nurse in NJ is.
But most important, supremely important, is the precedent. The precedent is that governors can institute qurantine.
That precedent can be cited by the governors of say Texas and Arizona to quarantine those flooding across their borders from Mexico.
People who are addicted to drugs don’t have a logical reason, they have an obsession with obtaining the object of their desire. In this case, Obama is obsessed with obtaining immigrants who are likely to vote for him and for his party candidates. His obsession means that he doesn’t care about any of the other side consequences. As long as he keeps getting his money, a few American and some non-American people here and there are totally expendable to him.
It’s a lot more than Obama just wanting immigrants. He could get all the immigrants he wants from S./Central America. He wants to punish white Colonialists, whom he hates, while standing in solidarity with black Africans, w whom he identifies.
Once the prostitutes get it, then the End of Days will arrive.
Married men who cheat with prostitutes will tell themselves they have the flu once they get body aches and fever, and will only fess up to what they did once they are vomiting blood. Meanwhile, the wife and kids have had at least 10 days to go on with their daily work/school routine.
What’s worse, from what I have heard, African prostitutes spread the disease while asymptomatic. This could be a loophole to the ordinary idea that symptoms = contagion.
He is still addicted to taking in immigrants any way he can. He knows that the African ones will likely be just as appealed to by the offered benefits as the Latin American ones.
Not everything with Obama revolves around immigrants. Of course he wants them, but he can get millions from south of the border any time he wants.
Obama’s issues against America/pro-Africa fall into another category. Dinesh D’Souza covered a lot of this ground in The Roots of Obama’s Rage. Obama has a particular antipathy/ax to grind with the USA. He took on that cause from his father. He also took his primary identity, that of a Black Kenyan, from his father.
Now he looks for opportunities to even the score. In his mind, the US owes black African more than it can ever repay. If Obama can inflict even a small measure of parity via the spreading of the Ebola virus, for him that is at least one small step in the right direction.
Original reports said the pregnant woman was the daughter of his landlord; Duncan was supposedly asked to help get her into a cab for transport to a hospital in Monrovia.
Still unanswered: how does a man, living in a country where the average annual income is less than $500, suddenly gather enough cash for a one-way ticket to the U.S. (average fare is currently $3-4,000, depending on the airline you choose). And he reportedly quit his job with Liberia’s FedEx affiliate about two weeks before coming to America—not sure how that fits with his exposure to the disease through the pregnant woman. But it’s clear he was planning to come to America (and stay) well before he got on that plane.
“So about 44,000 Liberians die each year, which means roughly 10% of the deaths this year have been from Ebola.”
Ebola’s a ‘game’ changer though. And I do agree that a lot of selfless healthcare workers will quit flying there. Inevitable. But our assistance to Africa would be a lot worse than that if we take more serious hits.
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