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To: Swordmaker

You are as “full of crap as a Christmas Turkey.”

You can make you play on words but I am an American Manufacturer and my products are made in America by American workers......100%.

Take your definition and “stuff it.”

Whether or not you like it, if the product is not completely made in America....IT IS NOT AMERICAN! Regardless as some political definition!


46 posted on 10/25/2014 4:39:27 PM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: DH
You are as “full of crap as a Christmas Turkey.”

You can make you play on words but I am an American Manufacturer and my products are made in America by American workers......100%.

Take your definition and “stuff it.”

You are the one who is "playing with words" when you claim I'm full of crap. You may be an American Manufacturer, but I've been an American CEO. I've had legal counsel at my beck and call on staff. I still have an attorney on my payroll.

Look, DH, you are an idiot if you make such a claim! I suggest you talk to your legal counsel before you put that label on YOUR products. Make certain you meet the criteria, or you may find yourself in hot water. It doesn't take much to fall below the threshold. Do you have certifications from you raw materials suppliers that 100% of what they provide you was produced in the USA? Do they them from theirs? You could be at risk if you claim it and can't prove it.

Those are NOT MY PLAY ON WORDS, but the Federal Trade Commission's legal definition of those terms. You can cry "political definition" as much as you want to, but if the hard drive or other major component in a computer is imported, the computer cannot be listed as "Made in America" or "Manufacted in America" or "Made in the USA" or "Manufactured in the USA," because by a legal definition it can't, even if every other part was manufactured in the USA. READ the FTC's definition again. Computer components come from dozens of countries these days. The MacPro is remarkable for the number of domestic US parts it does incorporate.

If you don't think these legal definitions are important, and think you're safe, Google "Gibson Guitar wood seizure". That was all about where exotic wood was machined. . . and a legal definition.

There are ZERO computers that contain 100% parts made in the USA, just as there are ZERO automobiles, ZERO televisions, etc. most products, especially electronics, incorporate some parts that are imported. The simple fact is that some of the rare earths used in making modern electronics are NOT EVEN MINED IN THE United States because there are no economically viable deposits here.

The definitions to use specific levels of labeling are prescribed in LAW. I quoted directly from the FTC citations and gave THEIR examples. You are an idiot to disagree just so you can continue to BASH Apple products. I can link to the FTC regulations if you choose. . . But I'm not going to bother, because you really don't care. You just want to spread FUD.

Now, as to the Apple MacPro, Time Magazine says the MacPro is Manufactured in the USA.

YouTube takes you on a virtual tour of Apple's plant where it is made in Austin, Texas, where the major components are manufactured from raw aluminum stock.

I'm sure you can see all the Asians manufacturing the MacPro. . . oh, wait a second, they're NOT Asian or Chinese workers, they're Texans! In Austin, Texas! And what are they doing? They are manufacturing the MacPro! Assembling chips onto the logic board (which was made in the USA) with ICs, many of which were ALSO manufactured in the USA as well as some from Japan, China, Singapore and Taiwan, and an Intel processor from the USA, case manufactured on site, P/S on site, packaging printed and made in the USA. So, DH, YES, it was indeed substantially made in the United States, and Assembled here from parts from all over the world that cannot all be 100% sourced from US manufacturers. So, DH, you literally DON'T know what you're blithering about. AND you are lying when you say that "Assembled in the USA" is merely me "playing with words!" And that I'm ". . . full of crap as a Chrismas Turkey," DH. Learn a little about your own business's legal environment before you throw stones! BAH!

49 posted on 10/25/2014 7:15:52 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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