[mountn man]

I’m not interested in arguing with people such as yourself who put themselves upon pillars of arrogance vaunt their self-asserted superior translation prowess to beat down anyone who does not tow their lines of “perfection”.

I posted my understanding. I don’t care if you do not like it or disagree with it.

Your kind make Pharisees pale milqetoast in comparison.

You're a real peace of work.

YOU are the one who asserted your superior translation powers.
YOU are the one claiming the special revelation from God.

Then you have the audacity to compare me to a Pharisee.

Typical liberal, with the projections.

Here, I'm going to do one more set of things here.

Since I already posted the seven times that χάραγμα is used in Revelation and the one time in Acts, here is a link to a site with the English/Greek concordance with the use of the word
http://biblehub.com/greek/charagma_5480.htm

Here is the link to Strong's concordance with the meaning
http://biblehub.com/greek/5480.htm

And here is a link to Revelation 13:16 with the word by word Greek to English comparison.
http://biblehub.com/text/revelation/13-16.htm

If anyone wants to do a search of the other verses to verify, they can either scroll further, using the arrows alongside the verse or type in the other verses used.

As anyone can see, I AM NOT using any special self asserted translation powers.

I am using tried and true methods, used my thousands of other scholars over the years.

I AM NOT the one using a "special pet doctrine" or the "doctrines du jour" as you posted.

If someone looks up the word heretical this is Mirriam Websters second definition
2: of, relating to, or characterized by departure from accepted beliefs or standards : unorthodox
You have posted a "belief" contrary to what any Bible scholars claim. With NO PROOF, except stating that your understanding comes from God.

Well...
"If I am" a Pharisee, for sticking to the Bible and relying on known interpretation,
Then who does that make you, claiming special understanding straight from God???

Are you claiming to be Jesus?

Sorry, I'll stand by the word of God on this one.

[INVAR]

You're a real peace of work.

The Lord's not done with me yet, give Him all the thanks.

YOU are the one who asserted your superior translation powers.

You might want to step away from the mirror.

YOU are the one claiming the special revelation from God.

No, now you are blatantly LYING. I specifically stated that my own study of scripture led me to my understanding. I never said anything about 'special revelation'.

There is this command about bearing false witness, perhaps your translation of Greek and Hebrew into English negates those commands to something different?

Then you have the audacity to compare me to a Pharisee.

Audacity???? Who was it who compared me to Satan in reply 122? Who was it in the very first post you pinged me to, accused me of making things up and listening to false teachers??? You got a lot of audacity yourself there pal.

Typical liberal, with the projections.

There's that mirror again.

I'll state this again - just for the record. I DO NOT subscribe to the tradition and doctrine that the "mark" in Revelation is a physical branding. Instead I understand "The mark" to be thinking (forehead) and acting (right hand) in support and submission to the Beast, which I understand to be an all-intrusive government power given power by Satan himself.

Not a Salvation issue to get yourself all worked up about, but modern-day Pharisees like yourself with agendas and pet doctrines to push - make it so and declare everyone who does not share their understanding to be heretics and of Satan - which you have perfectly demonstrated with aplomb.

One word of advice I know you will reject outright - you will never win one person to Christ by beating them over the head with scripture.

Been there, done that. It's all pride and arrogance and does nothing but sow discord among brethren. One of the things God hates.

Rethink your approach. You are not teaching in love, you are bashing in rage. You are dividing, not uniting. If you think the 'mark' is a bar code, so be it. My understanding is different. If you cannot handle that, then the problem is in either your hubris or your insecurity with what you think you believe. I think it is the former.

All I seek to know among folks like you is Christ and Him crucified. If that is not enough for you, I submit that illustrates what Spirit you are of.