Canadensis man targeted repeatedly as Frein suspect

Pocono Record ^ | 10-20-2014 | Beth Brelje

[Hot Tabasco]

He's got a bum leg and is walking to work. It may not be the best of worlds, and he may not have the best of lives, but he's out there doing

Amen! A two hour walk at midnight along a dark country road every damn night...and winter's coming on......That just sucks!

It would be nice if someone could donate him a car.......

[Hot Tabasco]

I live here in the search area, darlin,

Then maybe you could drive by Mr. Tully's house and offer him a ride to work in the afternoons.....

[SpeakerToAnimals]

Self ping

[Tamzee]

“pigs”

Charles Manson, William Ayers and the Black Panthers must be so proud of you....

[LevinFan]

And Stalin and Kim Ill must be proud of you.

[Blue Jays]

"You guys keep posting that picture of the blue truck shot in California [from] two years ago and the situations are so different it is ridiculous."

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Is it all that different?
In that earlier California case, police thought the blue Toyota Tacoma was a gray Toyota Tundra. They *somehow* thought the 47 y.o. and 71 y.o. female Latina occupants was a black male perp.

The next innocent person they nearly killed on this manhunt was a white male driving a black Honda Ridgeline...yet triggerhappy police shot at him and rammed his vehicle, too. He apparently closely resembled the perp, who was of a different race driving a different make/model vehicle.

Tamzee...John Tully is your NEIGHBOR, for goodness sake! Police have stopped him nearly two dozen times to the point that he wears his identification on a lanyard around his neck to avoid reaching into his pockets...for fear of getting clubbed or shot.

Do you agree there has to be a better way by which to enable this innocent resident of your SAME neighborhood to travel to his workplace without fear of police guns being pointed at him? Someone steps on a dry stick, drops a flashlight, or farts...and your neighbor John Tully could be shot to Swiss cheese.

[Robert Teesdale]

I’m dealing with facts and the reality of what is happening around us here.... you’re apparently insisting on some twisted, dark fantasy world in your head. Careful, the Unabomber thought his twisted fantasy world was real, too.

What systemic inappropriate attitudes and conduct, contrary to civil liberties, do you perceive on the part of law enforcement in general in the United States today?

[Tamzee]

I don't think you are understanding me... I DONT BELIEVE HIS STORY about getting attacked. Yes, I believe he has probably been stopped and questioned regularly, as have many of us. He is probably stopped more often than others as he is walking through wooded roads in search during the middle of the night. But I have also run into state police and searchers several times and found them to polite and professional in every single instance. On one occasion I was clearly in their way. They not only didn't push me around or ask me to leave, they expressed a worry for my safety and told me to be very careful in that area. They are consistently very concerned about the well-being of the residents here. Could there be an occasional jerk among the hundreds of searchers? Of course. But every single one I have deal with has been perfectly courteous and trying hard to work the search area and protect residents and let us go about our lives at the same time.

Then I come onto Free Republic and see these same men and women being painted as the Gestapo and I am "Stalin" if I don't agree that "cops=pigs". It is like reading a New York Times article about Ronald Reagan. Twilight zone unreality.

[Tamzee]

“What systemic inappropriate attitudes and conduct, contrary to civil liberties, do you perceive on the part of law enforcement in general in the United States today?:

Well, are you referring to our civil liberties as outlined by the Founding Fathers, or the warped caricature of civil liberties we have today where a free government paid cell phone is considered a civil liberty but my driving over the NY State boarder with a loaded 38 special is not?

Either way, regarding attitudes, there are good and bad apples in every group of humans. Some law enforcement agencies as a whole will be worse than others depending on the leadership and level of corruption tolerated. I personally know some LEO’s I wouldn’t spit on if they were on fire. But what I have seen with the Frein search has been very professional and considerate of the public so far. Threads painting these Frein searchers with same shot-up Blue Tacoma truck brush makes Free Republic look like MSNBC.

[Robert Teesdale]

Well, are you referring to our civil liberties as outlined by the Founding Fathers, or the warped caricature of civil liberties we have today where a free government paid cell phone is considered a civil liberty but my driving over the NY State boarder with a loaded 38 special is not?

The latter isn't anything more than the dripping effluvia of a rotted empire.

[kiryandil]

Tamzee wrote: Try scrounging up just a teeny bit of common sense. If he is similar in looks and build to Frein and has been trudging along the woods in the search area in the middle of the night on a regular basis and if the hundreds of cops covering the area for weeks were “government gunthugs”, then how is he still alive? And not shot at a single time?

Tamzee wrote earlier:How does not a single bullet hole here equal “a knee in the back” in your mind?

I’m dealing with facts and the reality of what is happening around us here.... you’re apparently insisting on some twisted, dark fantasy world in your head. Careful, the Unabomber thought his twisted fantasy world was real, too.

How does "a knee in the back" NOT equal “a knee in the back” in your mind? Do you have some loose connections up there?

BTW - I'll take the peasant's word at face value. Plus, you really should think about your accusation of a "twisted, dark fantasy world in [my] head", because I repeated a line from the news story. If you want to be a spearcatcher for the police, just say it. Don't beat around the bush.

[2nd amendment mama]

I DONT BELIEVE HIS STORY about getting attacked.

Then I guess you didn't read this part of the story where another cop, a state trooper, witnessed it:

"This went on for what seemed like 15 minutes or more when a state trooper who recognized Tully from previous questioning arrived and told the other officer that Tully was telling the truth about his name.

The trooper held out a hand and helped Tully stand up and helped him gather the items he had been carrying, which were scattered on the ground.

No one apologized."

Tell us, what police department are you affiliated with?

[Blue Jays]

James Tully and his family were even thankful for the Pennsylvania State Trooper who intervened with the other law enforcement person.

He noted that helpful trooper photographed his ID and offered to share it in the next briefing. It does not sound like James Tully is seeking to win a courtroom lottery.

One does have to seriously wonder how there can be countless thousands of officers combing the woods at MILLIONS of dollars in costs...yet the real perp can't be found. Unreal.

That was a good question from 2nd Amendment Mama:
With which agency are you affiliated?
Local, state, federal, or other?

[Tamzee]

“With which agency are you affiliated?”

Figures. In your conspiracy-soaked minds I MUST be law enforcement to be challenging your statements. The answer is ZERO. I am not and have never been a member of any law enforcement agency. No family in law enforcement, either. I am just on the side of truth and what I am seeing on the ground here is very different from how you all are portraying it on Free Republic.

I am also on the side of Free Republic. It used to be such an amazing resource for news and information on current events right from local Freepers. Now news threads are overwhelmed by rabid misinformation like what is posted here by folks clear across the country. Very sad.

[Altariel]

So Frein is such a threat to them that they have the time, resources and inclination to repeatedly harass and terrorize an innocent man who looks nothing like him.

Got it.

[Altariel]

Are you willing to acknowledge that you have erred and that you jumped on the side of the government employee who assaulted an innocent man over your non-government employed neighbor, who did not?

Are you willing to acknowledge that you are defending government employees who claim to find Frein so “threatening” that they are willing to repeatedly harass, terrorize, and assault an innocent man who looks nothing like him, even though doing so is tactically foolish and dangerous?

[Tamzee]

Yes, I am willing to acknowledge that I am defending government employees who claim to find Frein so "threatening"...

This is the assassinated state trooper's widow and two little boys.

[piasa]

If they were squirrel hunters they probably would have found him by now.

[Tamzee]

That’s my last post on the thread. I’m done wasting my time.

[Darnright]

For what it’s worth, there’s a GoFundMe site set up to raise money to help Tully get a car, or to afford gas so he can get home more safely.

http://www.gofundme.com/g43pg8

There are good folks following this story.