Posted on 10/18/2014 4:45:34 AM PDT by chrisnj
Many conservative voters are disillusioned at the Republicans for not standing up for their principles, for compromising with the Democrats, for having no spines etc. etc. They vow not to vote for the Republicans, or outright vote for the Democrats, to send them a message, to teach them a lesson. I think this kind of message/lesson serves no purpose but to cut off your own supply of oxygen.
Almost all the Republicans rejected obumbocrap (obamacare) but Harry Reid and his crooked Dems jammed it through deviously. The House Republicans have passed many legislations to repeal obumbocrap but Reid et al killed them all. The House Republicans have passed many good legislations but Reid and his crooks buried them all. The media blasted the Republicans on all their good constitutional/conservative acts, but remained silent on the Democrats' constant acts to destroy the constitution. This is a known fact and all of us always complain about it. Yet we are not showing any understanding of the difficult situations facing the House Republicans. While the Dem voters are behind their Dems 100%, we are demanding perfection while offering no help. We blame the Republicans for this and that but we are not working hard to create an opportunity or situation where they can stand on their principles and serve us faithfully. Why don't we vote them into majority in both House and Senate, so they have more control and feel less pressured to compromise, but more encouraged to listen to us to enact constitutional legislations for the good of the country. This is not excuses for the Republicans' non-performance. It is simply a fact that a good person can only do so much under difficult situations! We should understand that it is human nature to be rather weak, especially when under pressure. But given the favorable situations we are more likely to stand up taller for our principles. Remember when the Republicans were the majority in both Houses - even with a Democrat president Clinton, Congress was able to serve the people well! So if we are able to vote the Republicans into the majority, we just might be able to influence them into reversing the course to get our country back on the right track. Considering that many people have awaken and patriots are much more enthusiatically engaged in shaping government policies, we can realistically hope to get better leaders who will listen to the people again. All we need to do is unite and vote the crooks out but vote the acceptable albeit imperfect Republican candidates in, then work hard to influence them...
Certainly, with rampant voter fraud, ignorant and low-information voters, AND, the conservatives who vow to stay home or vote for the Dems, there is no hope that the Republicans will be in control of both Houses. It was said that those conservatives who wouldn't vote for the Republicans are part of the reasons why the Dems won the elections. So these conservatives are in effect cutting off the supply of oxygen to their own hopes (and our hopes)!
History suggests that the Republicans are more constitution-abiding leaders. We need to create the opportunities for them to abide to the constituion - by voting them into majority and then pressuring them into serving the people the way they should.
I believe Jonbon held the purse. Zero does nothing without money.
Or did the Constitution get rewritten since I went to bed last night? Look, I get your excuses. You are filled with fear. Man up and elect conservatives. Stop sending our problems to DC.
Snark isn’t a winning method. Besides, you arent very good at it.
Mitt Romney.
So you’re going to dodge my point by quibbling with the word purist. That’s fine — you tell me what word to use for your ilk and I’ll rewrite my earlier post using that word.
Perhaps you missed the fact that both supposed parties are filled with leftist and are in function, one party now?
Absolutely no argument with your point.
The question remains how to hold the party to the principle?
Is that a serious question? Do you think the people who aren't persuaded to your point of view are worse than your open enemy (which I assume is the DEM party, in general)? A better approach is to increase the number of allies (at least not increase the number of enemies), but your approach appears to turn the passive into enemies. You aren't Mitch McConnell, by chance?
Being cynical is one thing. Acting out on emotion and not counting the costs properly and doing something stupid is quite another.
I submit that voting Dem or not voting at all is an emotion based act of stupidity - and I say that as someone who has been cynical about Karl Rove - and the GOP establishment consultants - since late 2000 and who has a long history of published material on that very topic.
That's like creating an opportunity for a thief to be honest by leaving your house unlocked!?!
Use the word ‘Conservative” since those are the values we hold and that separate us from the Liberal wing of FR that demands we vote for liberal republicans ‘no matter what’..
“We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers”...that being said...the lesser of evils is still evil, frankly if the Republicans don’t think conservative principals matter I dont want them in office, the Republic is too dear. So Rinos and Dems can spend eternity in hell, but I will be damned if I will vote them into office to bring hell here.
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obumbocrap was already the ‘law’ and implementation was done by obumbo and his gang.
Are you saying the ‘Rinos’ could have stopped the implementation of the ‘law’ when they couldn’t stop the Dems from jamming it through in the first place?
You are forgetting that the Dems are in control and kill everything the Rep did. That is why we need to get the Rep into majority so they can control the Dems with our help.
In the eyes of certain FReepers, Reagan was a RINO - he cut and ran from Lebanon, gave amnesty to illegals, and raised taxes. In their eyes, HE’S JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
In the eyes of certain FReepers, Jesus Christ was a RINO - He befriended and forgave tax collectors, advised people to pay their taxes to the government, and consorted with known prostitutes. In their eyes, HE’S JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Which begs the question, why did we end up with Bishop Willard from Planet Kolob as the GOPe nominee on 2012? Because in the case of every conservative candidate, the cry went out: YOUR GUY’S JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
The FReeper’s Definition of Conservative: “I’m not sure, but whatever it is, it sure as hell ain’t YOU!!!”
Start by electing principled people. If they turn, vote them out or recall where legal to do so. Simple. All it lacks is people with the integrity to follow through.
That was how the founders designed the system afterall.
I am not a purist, but I have about 4-5 core political principles and any candidate I support must be on the right side of those issues. It's really that simple. Sending a Republican to Washington because it's supposedly going to block (or even slow) implementation of a radical leftist agenda might sound great on paper, but when that same Republican is an ardent advocate of a full-scale foreign invasion across our southern border then I wouldn't walk across the street to vote for the guy.
That's approximately status quo, at the federal level. WHen the Republicans are in control, they opreate as leftists. At least when they are out of control, they make a pretense of opposing the leftists.
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