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Help to Fully Accept Sikhs in the US Military
Change.org ^ | 10/11/2014 | Vaishali Rana

Posted on 10/17/2014 6:50:07 AM PDT by thetallguy24

"The message of the Sikh faith, although peaceful, has a strong theme of justice and upholding human rights running through it." My dear friend's cousin, Major Kamaljit Khalsi, will be going in front of congress to fight for Sikhs Service in the US Military. We need 100,000 signatures but are only at 5700. Please sign the petition and please share with your friends and family to help everyone. This isn't only for Sikhs but anyone from different faiths that look to join and serve their country."

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We, the undersigned individuals, respectfully call on your Administration to give devout Sikh Americans an equal opportunity to serve in the U.S. Armed Forces.

The Sikh community has been an integral part of the American fabric for over a century and made numerous contributions to the progress and prosperity of our society, including a proud tradition of military service dating back to World...
We, the undersigned individuals, respectfully call on your Administration to give devout Sikh Americans an equal opportunity to serve in the U.S. Armed Forces.

The Sikh community has been an integral part of the American fabric for over a century and made numerous contributions to the progress and prosperity of our society, including a proud tradition of military service dating back to World War I. Unfortunately, the U.S. military effectively banned devout Sikh soldiers from serving in the 1980s and continues to severely limit their ability to do so.

As you are aware, the U.S. Army recently made limited progress by granting three Sikh soldiers the opportunity to serve while wearing turbans and maintaining unshorn hair and beards in accordance with their religion. Two of these patriotic Americans have served in Afghanistan. One received a Bronze Star Medal for his service, and another earned a NATO Commendation Medal.

America’s allies, including Great Britain, Canada, and India, presumptively allow Sikhs to serve in their militaries. By allowing devout Sikhs to serve with their articles of faith intact, America's military can project core values of pluralism and equal opportunity to the world and expand its pool of qualified soldiers. We therefore call on you to end the presumptive ban on devout Sikh soldiers in the U.S. Armed Forces so that patriotic Sikh Americans can freely serve the nation they love.

Sincerely,
[Your name]




TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: army; defense; marines; navy
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To: stormer

As I said, I had no knowledge of this. I am not calling anyone a liar. And I AM astonished to see this.


41 posted on 10/17/2014 10:03:36 AM PDT by rlmorel (The Media's Principles: Conflict must exist. Doesn't exist? Create it. Exists? Exacerbate it.)
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To: stormer

Isn’t that the same ol same ol? The three same guys? The doctor, the dentist, one or two others?

In fact aren’t there only three Sikhs serving in the United States military, maybe a fourth one now?


42 posted on 10/17/2014 10:07:44 AM PDT by ansel12 ( LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nationÂ’s electorate for democrats)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
slaughtering civilians

For example, Air India Flight 182.

43 posted on 10/17/2014 10:14:54 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: rlmorel; yefragetuwrabrumuy

They were grandfathered in before 1986.

You have to be careful when these freepers start pushing the Sikh agenda against the American military.

By Cheryl K. Chumley - The Washington Times - Monday, April 14, 2014
Only three of 500,000 active-duty and reserve Army troops are Sikhs.


44 posted on 10/17/2014 10:15:13 AM PDT by ansel12 ( LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nationÂ’s electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12
Sikhs are obviously a discipline problem

Sikh primary loyalty is to Khalistan, which is the sikh version of the caliphate.

45 posted on 10/17/2014 10:21:56 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: ansel12

What does it matter? The fact is that Sikhs are serving.


46 posted on 10/17/2014 10:23:36 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer
The fact is that Sikhs are serving.

Three of them? We get a lot more of Louis Farrakhan's people serving in our military.

47 posted on 10/17/2014 10:31:22 AM PDT by ansel12 ( LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nationÂ’s electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Again. So what?


48 posted on 10/17/2014 10:32:13 AM PDT by stormer
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To: ansel12; All

As long as we’re talking about Sikhs

The 21 Sikhs of Saragarhi

http://www.business-standard.com/article/specials/the-21-sikhs-of-saragarhi-114091101117_1.html

“...The 36th Sikhs survive to this day. They were re-designated as the 4th Battalion of the Sikh Regiment — which is, unsurprisingly, the most highly decorated regiment of the Indian Army. Now 20 battalions strong, the entire regiment remembers the heroic and selfless sacrifice of these soldiers by commemorating Saragarhi Day as their Battle Honour Day each year....”


49 posted on 10/17/2014 10:32:22 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: ansel12

There’d be more if they were allowed beards and turbans. What’s the big deal? More Sikhs, less homos.


50 posted on 10/17/2014 10:37:29 AM PDT by servantoftheservant
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To: PeteB570

Yeah, we aren’t India in the 1800s.


51 posted on 10/17/2014 10:38:39 AM PDT by ansel12 ( LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nationÂ’s electorate for democrats)
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To: servantoftheservant

What’s the big deal of beards and turbans in the American military? Ask the Army and Reagan, do you agree with these Sikh activists and militants that we do it out of racism?

As far as a doctor and a dentist and a spec 4 replacing the homos, I doubt it, and there are homosexual Sikhs.


52 posted on 10/17/2014 10:42:25 AM PDT by ansel12 ( LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nationÂ’s electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12
Ask the Army and Reagan, do you agree with these Sikh activists and militants that we do it out of racism?

I'm just sick and tired of people who come to the west from shitholes like Punjab or Iraq or Somalia or wherever, and proceed to tell us that we are racists, and we must change out laws and institutions to accommodate them, and that they have a thing or two to teach us about civilized behavior. As if an Iraqi immigrant who was a cannibal back in his home country has a lot to teach us. As if I should listen to some bearded dope-dealer who comes to north america and sets up Khalistan youth clubs holding memorials for poor martyred sikh terrorists. As if I need to have him explain to me that I'm not up to standards of civilized behavior and I need to learn a thing or two about tolerance and non-discrimination and blah blah.

Of course if you were living in their country you'd have no rights at all, since you are not one of them. Not muslim, not black, not sikh or not whatever. It would just be better for everyone it they didn't come here.

53 posted on 10/17/2014 11:00:15 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

In attacking our American military, pound for pound, the Sikhs are the worse.

They never let up on their attacks and militarism and activism.

Their freeper cult supporters even post their individual photos here as heroic political activists.


54 posted on 10/17/2014 11:08:49 AM PDT by ansel12 ( LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nationÂ’s electorate for democrats)
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To: ricmc2175

There were two different types when I was in during the early and mid 1990s. The “old” ones had two internal filters (M17), and the new ones (M40)have an external cylinder.

The other issue is facial hair. If you can’t get a good seal, then it is useless.


55 posted on 10/17/2014 12:06:32 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: ansel12

True, and I also don’t support special exemptions for anybody.

But if in any discussion you can’t handle a little history thrown in and enjoy it - well, have a nice day.


56 posted on 10/17/2014 12:09:14 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: PeteB570

Why the crack, the reason it is so recognizable is because of the pro Sikh arguments that we see on these threads about our military and the Sikh agitators, which seem to rely on old history involving India.

All I said to you is that we aren’t 1800s India.


57 posted on 10/17/2014 12:19:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ( LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nationÂ’s electorate for democrats)
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To: ricmc2175

Sikhs have suffered under Islamic rule for almost 1,000 years. They are great warriors—Let them serve in all Sikh units-—Turbans and all. The Brits had great success with them—as they have has with the Gurkas. Muslims may have loyality problem in action with other Muslims—this will not happen with Sikhs—The more you learn of this religion the more “American” they seem—Great and honest business men, they handle their own problems—you will never see a Sikh on welfare.


58 posted on 10/17/2014 12:30:41 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: thetallguy24

The Army can develop a standard for uniform to accommodate the Sikhs allowing for beard and hair as well as other items like I guess a turban. The Sikhs are true warriors and I would have had no problem fighting beside them when I was a soldier.


59 posted on 10/17/2014 1:02:52 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: SpirituTuo

The facial hair issue is that to which I referred. A quick good seal with facial hair is highly unlikely.


60 posted on 10/17/2014 1:07:00 PM PDT by ricmc2175
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