Posted on 10/15/2014 1:29:20 PM PDT by jazusamo
(CNSNews.com) - Dr. Tom Frieden, director for the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said during a telephone press briefing Wednesday that you cannot get Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus, but that infected or exposed persons should not ride public transportation because they could transmit the disease to someone else.
Dr. Frieden also reported that a Dallas health-care worker who has been diagnosed with Ebola had a temperature of 99.5 when she flew from Cleveland to Dallas on Monday.
Friedens statement came in response to CNSNews.coms question regarding a video message from President Barack Obama last week addressing Ebola-stricken countries in West Africa, in which the president told residents they cannot get [Ebola] through casual contact like sitting next to someone on a bus.
During the conference call, CNSNews.com asked Frieden: In a video message to countries in West Africa experiencing Ebola outbreaks, President Obama told residents they cannot get the disease by sitting next to someone on a bus. But CDC recommendations state travelers in West Africa who begin to show possible Ebola symptoms, or people who have experienced a high risk of exposure, should avoid public transportation, including buses. Weve also seen large amounts of concern regarding potentially infected people traveling on airplanes.
My first question is, did the Center for Disease Control vet this video message before it was released and posted on U.S. embassy websites, and is it true that a person runs absolutely no risk of contracting Ebola on public transportation, such as a bus?
Yes, CDC vetted the message, and, yes, we believe its accurate, Frieden responded.
I think there are two different parts of that equation, he continued. The first is, if youre a member of the traveling public and are healthy, should you be worried you might have gotten it by sitting next to someone? And the answer is no.
Second, if you are sick and you may have Ebola, should you get on a bus? And the answer to that is also no. You might become ill, you might have a problem that exposes someone around you, he said.
Frieden also reiterated that the CDC is currently tracking down and monitoring those who were on the same flight as a health care worker just before she was diagnosed with Ebola.
Because the risk is so low, we think there is an extremely low likelihood that anyone who traveled on this plane would have been exposed, but were putting into place extra margins of safety and were contacting everyone who was on that flight, Frieden said.
Earlier in the briefing, Dr. Frieden had pointed out that CDC guidelines indicate that someone who has had exposure to Ebola should not travel on public transportation.
"Because at that point she was in a group of individuals known to have exposure to Ebola, she should not have traveled on a commercial airline, Frieden said. The CDC guidance in this setting outlines the need for what is called 'controlled movement.' That can include a charter plane, that can include a car, but it does not include public transport.
"We will from this moment forward, we will ensure that no individual who is being monitored for exposure undergoes travel in any way other than controlled movement, he said.
Immediately following Friedens response to CNSNews.com, a reporter with the New York Post asked Frieden about the CDCs monitoring of other health care workers who treated the first Ebola patient in the United States, Thomas Duncan.
How going forward will it be possible to stop people that treated Mr. Duncan from getting on public transportation? the reporter asked.
In terms of controlled movement, that is something that we work out with the state and local public health authorities, said Frieden.
At this time, we require anyone who may have been exposed to travel by controlled movement only, he said. The health-care worker No. 2 who travelled from Ohio on the 13th of October, Monday, should not have travelled, should not have been allowed to travel by plane or any public transport by virtue of the fact that she was in an exposed group. And although she did not report any symptoms and she did not meet the fever threshold of 100.4, she did report at that time that she took her temperature and found it to be 99.5.
So, by both of those criteria, she should not have been on that plane, said Dr. Frieden.
But despite claiming the health care worker should not have been on the flight in the first place, Frieden added, I dont think that changes the level of risk of people around her.
She did not vomit, she was not bleeding, so the level of risk of people around her would be extremely low, he continued. But because of that extra margin of safety, we will be contacting them all.
The update comes more than a week after President Barack Obama issued a video message to Ebola-stricken countries in West Africa, telling residents they "cannot get [Ebola] through casual contact like sitting next to someone on a bus." The message has been widely circulated online and is currently posted on multiple U.S. embassy websites.
On Tuesday, a spokesperson for the CDC told CNSNews.com that its not impossible to contract Ebola from an infected person on a bus, particularly if the healthy person touches a contaminated object.
Its very unlikely, CDC Spokesperson Kristen Nordlund explained. But if, say, someone was sweating or had blood and touched a handrail and then you touched it right after, and put your hand in your mouth, it is possible. Its not impossible.
Also if the person vomits on you, that cant be ruled out, Nordlund continued. But to get it that way, theres not a high likelihood of that happening.
Just hop on the bus, Gus.
Make it look planned, Stan
You don’t need to be coy, Roy....
Yes, definitely.
Makes perfect illogical sense.
“”You mean there’s a catch?”
“Sure there’s a catch”, Doc Daneeka replied. “Catch-22. Anyone who wants to get out of combat duty isn’t really crazy.”
There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one’s own safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn’t, but if he was sane, he had to fly them. If he flew them, he was crazy and didn’t have to; but if he didn’t want to, he was sane and had to. Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle.”
The old woman talks to Yossarian:
“Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can’t stop them from doing.”
“What the hell are you talking about?” Yossarian shouted at her in bewildered, furious protest. “How did you know it was Catch-22? Who the hell told you it was Catch-22?”
“The soldiers with the hard white hats and clubs. The girls were crying. ‘Did we do anything wrong?’ they said. The men said no and pushed them away out the door with the ends of their clubs. ‘Then why are you chasing us out?’ the girls said. ‘Catch 22,’ the men said. All they kept saying was ‘Catch-22, Catch-22. What does it mean, Catch 22? What is Catch-22?”
“Didn’t they show it to you?” Yossarian demanded, stamping about in anger and distress. “Didn’t you even make them read it?”
“They don’t have to show us Catch-22,” the old woman answered. “The law says they don’t have to.”
“What law says they don’t have to?”
“Catch-22”.
The few times I have heard this guy speak he has ended up arguing with himself.
He is the double-talking Norm Crosby of the new millennia.
LOL. At a very sad occassion.
Post of the year!!!!!
I think the movie ‘Catch 22’ also had a mailman school, you could get a degree in anything there./sarc
I remember people talking about one college holding the record for winning a game in the longest overtime and also holding the record for losing a game in the longest overtime. I never could figure out how that equates.
Why are they even letting him talk anymore????
Just like prohibiting WestAfricans from America will spread Ebola.
We are so screwed!!!!
If I work at CDC, I would beg the guy not to open his mouth in front of camera right now.
How on Earth do they know for a fact that her temperature was 99.5?
Totally agree. You’d think 0bama would be embarrassed for him and if not fire him at least put someone out there to speak that sounds a bit competent.
Like Morgan Fairchild?
Just ask any Democrat to explain it to you.
This man is a complete idiot, doesn’t even understand that he made a fool out himself talking about a dire situation, and this is the kind of person Obama and his administration are attracted to.
>>> Common Core Medicine...pray for our nation.
Can’t wait that long (for the new batch of Common Core healthcare professionals).
Pretty soon anybody walking over the boarder will be your PCP......
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