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City of Houston subpoenas pastors' sermons to see if they're criticizing lesbian mayor
Cain TV.com ^ | October 14, 2014 | Dan Calabrese

Posted on 10/15/2014 3:55:41 AM PDT by Kaslin

Unreal.

We already told you earlier today that folks are willing to use the gay rights movement as a pretext to go after those who live by the Word of God. Then we were talking about some lunkhead at a Canadian tourism company. I bet you didn't think the attorneys for a major American city would ever try to subpoena pastors' sermons to see if they had dared to speak any criticisms of the city's lesbian mayor.

Well. They did. Houston, we have . . . yeah, OK, it's an overused cliche. But if it ever applied, it would be here:

Houston's embattled equal rights ordinance took another legal turn this week when it surfaced that city attorneys, in an unusual step, subpoenaed sermons given by local pastors who oppose the law and are tied to the conservative Christian activists that have sued the city.

Opponents of the equal rights ordinance are hoping to force a repeal referendum when they get their day in court in January, claiming City Attorney David Feldman wrongly determined they had not gathered enough valid signatures to qualify for the ballot. City attorneys issued subpoenas last month during the case's discovery phase, seeking, among other communications, "all speeches, presentations, or sermons related to HERO, the Petition, Mayor Annise Parker, homosexuality, or gender identity prepared by, delivered by, revised by, or approved by you or in your possession."

The subpoenas were issued to several high-profile pastors and religious leaders who have been vocal in opposing the ordinance. The Alliance Defending Freedom has filed a motion on behalf of the pastors seeking to quash the subpoenas.

The back story is that in June the Houston City Council passed, and Mayor Parker signed, a "human rights ordinance" that panders in numerous ways to activists pushing for gay and "gender identity" rights, including a requirement that men be allowed to use women's bathrooms and vice versa. Not surprisingly, many local pastors opposed the ordinance, and more than 17,000 residents filed referendum petitions to get it repealed - which the city blatantly threw out alleging "irregularities".

But lest you thought Houston politicians were done playing hardball with their critics, not a chance. The subpoenas are supposedly to see if pastors had in any way violated the law by using the pulpit to preach about the law. Aside from the obvious First Amendment problems here, the pastors weren't even involved with the petition drive, so the city had no basis for issuing them subpoenas.

Not that this would stop them. The secular cultural left smells blood when it comes to gay rights, and they think they are now free to take any action - no matter how unconstitutional or illegal - against those who oppose the gay agenda because the cultural winds are blowing in their direction.

Big picture: If a city can subpoena a pastor's sermons just because the pastor preaches from the book that includes 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and other passages that call homosexuality sin, then we no longer have freedom of religion. At all. Period. Any pastor at any time could find himself in legal jeopardy if he preaches something not in agreement with the political, social or cultural orthodoxy of the moment.

It's a mistake to think the left has no god. They do. Their god is government, and specifically their own attainment of government power to use in shaping America's economic, social, cultural and political institutions to their liking. Those who preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ threaten the left's god, so no method of taking them down is off the table.

It's not just Houston that has a problem.


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To: Kaslin

Jeremiah Wright, please pick up the courtesy phone.


41 posted on 10/15/2014 5:46:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: nonliberal

Amen! It may as well start now.


42 posted on 10/15/2014 5:56:04 AM PDT by sport
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To: Kaslin

Tell the city to KYA............


43 posted on 10/15/2014 6:37:55 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Houston...just what is wrong with you voters that you elect such human debris?


44 posted on 10/15/2014 6:44:20 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Kaslin

Houston - The Sodom and Gomorrah of 2014.


45 posted on 10/15/2014 7:30:45 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Guns are like parachutes. If you need one and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again.)
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To: nonliberal

A church using deadly force? That’s not Christian at all. And it would bring every jackbooted thug within 100 miles.

Much better a viral video showing the police beating down the church door, manhandling passive parishioners into the paddy wagons, and surrounding the building with SWAT goons while they ransack the parish office.

That would create millions of allies. Mass rallies would follow & the po-po either arrests them all or backs down.

This isn’t North Korea. Yet.


46 posted on 10/15/2014 7:34:46 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("I am a radicalized infidel.")
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To: Rusty0604

Since when can a Mayor go after anyone’s Freedom of Speech?

I don’t particularly care for gay/lesbian/transexual/don’t know who they are’s either. This mayor can pound sand.


47 posted on 10/15/2014 7:43:09 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Thank you for this info. I thought the IRS could only monitor churches if they advocated for actual political candidates or parties, not social issues.

How is it that all these churches are preaching for open borders and amnesty and that’s not considered political activity?


48 posted on 10/15/2014 8:58:47 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
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As I wrote above about "Gay-Advocate-Churches" ...

and "black" political churches ...

and now, for your concern, churches that advocate and shelter illegal immigrants ...

all fit the Animal Farm template ... that ...

"Some Animals (Churches) are MORE EQUAL than other animals (churches)" ...



Please consider telling your church and pastor about this IRS 501-C3 information, including Pamplet-1828 and the YouTube videos.


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49 posted on 10/15/2014 9:25:47 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Kaslin

But at least Black pastors, who support lesbianism, will be exempt.


50 posted on 10/15/2014 3:26:04 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: Kaslin

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


51 posted on 10/15/2014 3:35:44 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Kaslin

Nazi.


52 posted on 10/15/2014 4:12:03 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: elcid1970

Or you could just use deadly force and make the police so terrifed that they simply refuse to enforce the subpoena. Self preservation trumps all.


53 posted on 10/15/2014 4:29:32 PM PDT by nonliberal (Sent from a payphone in a whorehouse in Mexico.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

bkmk

501c3 information.

Great post!


54 posted on 10/15/2014 4:52:08 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: nonliberal

Well....that usually ends up as a Waco or Ruby Ridge.

A church’s resistance to tyranny needs to be nonviolent which is the Christian example, after all.

“Naming & shaming” in this digital age however, might prove effective. If Officer Roid Rage finds his mug going viral, that could prove a deterrent to the others.


55 posted on 10/15/2014 5:02:59 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("I am a radicalized infidel.")
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bump


56 posted on 10/15/2014 5:28:00 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: elcid1970

At this point, the only deterrent would be a video of Officer Roid Rage’s kids crying at his funeral.


57 posted on 10/16/2014 3:44:50 AM PDT by nonliberal (Sent from a payphone in a whorehouse in Mexico.)
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