Posted on 10/13/2014 9:56:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
He is wrong. Until the “former slaves” get a check in the mail that specifically says “slavery reparations”, in their mind they never got it. /s
He is wrong because he said it out loud.
the state NAALCP chairman Lard Ass is trying to motivate blacks to get out and vote
Are you saying only Blacks receive welfare?
Reparations, if that is what it should be called, rather Christian Charity, was at its greatest during the Civil War when 330,000 White Union military died to free the slaves. That was almost one White Union serviceman for every ten slaves being held in the Confederacy. Extremely few of those who died had any connection with slaveholding, save in eliminating it.
It would be helpful if history and the government would note this when the term Reparations are raised.
White people receive welfare. Also brown, yellow, and red people.
Based on raw numbers, more whites receive welfare than blacks, but proportionally blacks receive more.
Welfare is most often a function of having children, so technically speaking, children receive welfare.
And then there is welfare for the rich.
If anything this helps him. There are a lot of poor whites that actually work for a living and are sick and tired of welfare types getting a free ride. Those votes are for the taking.
The biggest problem Tillis had was not defining himself as a conservative, so as long as he doesn’t try to walk back that statement, he can finally pull ahead.
That's a matter of opinion. (Not mine)
I was wondering why white people can’t get welfare.
Because, while blacks get welfare out of proportion to their numbers in the population, there are still more whites on welfare than blacks?
Who hasn’t yet made this connection?
Look at all the PC hand-wringers here, afraid that this factual statement will offend welfare recipients and the purse-carrying propaganda press wimps.
Welfare Demographics
Percent of recipients who are white 38.8 %
Percent of recipients who are black 39.8 %
Percent of recipients who are Hispanic 15.7 %
Percent of recipients who are Asian 2.4 %
Percent of recipients who are Other 3.3 %
For you in Rio Linda, the %s add to 100.0% of those on welfare.
The 2010 census states 12.6% of the U.S. population is African-American indicating that 12.6 of the population accounts for 39.8% of Welfare. The Hispanics account for 16.4% of the populations; Asian 4.7%.
http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Hispanic_or_Latino_origin
People living in Africa who were captured by enemies were treated the way the Bible says that Josephs brothers treated him - they decided to sell him because it was more profitable than killing him. There were places where slaves from Africa were plentiful but they left no progeny. People bought in Africa who were shipped to the American South had it rough - but their descendants are numerous.History is what it is, and of the present African Americans, no individual among them would now be alive if not for their ancestors having been brought together in America by the system as it was. The population of the US would by now almost certainly still be the same without those slaves, because other people would have immigrated here voluntarily under a less onerous system. And the population of Africa wouldnt be that different either.
“when 330,000 White Union military died to free the slaves.”
A popular version of history but not an accurate one. Secession was the casus belli, not slavery. Even a brief familiarity with Lincoln’s writing will reveal to you that the war was fought to restore the Union. Lincoln denied that he had the power to interfere with slavery in the states where it was legal and stated that if it required making slavery permanent in order to restore the Union he would do so.
Sounds like Howard Zinn’s take on history.
Fact is the people of the Free States elected and gave control of the Presidency and the Congress to the Abolitionists (Radical Republicans for you in Rio Linda); the South seeing they had lost control of the Federal government to the Abolitionists decided to secede to maintain their “Peculiar Institution”; Lincoln and the Rump Congress decided to invade and bring the Confederacy back into the “Union” and to eliminate the “Peculiar Institution.”
Lincoln was a gradualist regarding emancipation, but never the less an Emancipator.
The Congressional Radical Republicans never were going to let Slavery to continue, even persecuting, prosecuting and purging Union generals and officers who were not aggressive enough in their pursuit of freeing of slaves.
I wouldn't know. You can try reading what Lincoln actually wrote and see if it sounds like your friend Howard Zinn.
In August 1862 newspaper publisher Horace Greeley printed an open letter criticizing Lincoln for not ending slavery. Lincoln's reply was printed as well. It's well known, although apparently not to you. Lincoln spells out the goal of the death and destruction he was inflicting on the people of the American south, see if you can spot it:
A LETTER FROM PRESIDENT LINCOLN.; Reply to Horace Greeley. Slavery and the Union The Restoration of the Union the Paramount Object. August 24, 1862
EXECUTIVE MANSION, WASHINGTON, Aug. 22, 1862.
Hon. Horace Greeley:
DEAR SIR: I have just read yours of the 19th, addressed to myself through the New-York Tribune. If there be in it any statements or assumptions of fact which I may know to be erroneous, I do not now and here controvert them. If there be in it any inferences which I may believe to be falsely drawn, I do not now and here argue against them. If there be perceptible in it an impatient and dictatorial tone, I waive it in deference to an old friend, whose heart I have always supposed to be right.
As to the policy I "seem to be pursuing," as you say, I have not meant to leave any one in doubt.
I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time save Slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy Slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or destroy Slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves, I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that. What I do about Slavery and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save this Union, and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views. I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty, and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men, everywhere, could be free. Yours,
A. LINCOLN.
http://www.nytimes.com/1862/08/24/news/letter-president-lincoln-reply-horace-greeley-slavery-union-restoration-union.html
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Famed abolitionist Frederick Douglass knew Lincoln and gave a speech honoring him on the 10th anniversary of his death. While expressing gratitude that his people had been freed as a consequence of the slaughter of Lincoln's war he said he knew it was not the goal. Read it for yourself:
"It must be admitted, truth compels me to admit, even here in the presence of the monument we have erected to his memory, Abraham Lincoln was not, in the fullest sense of the word, either our man or our model. In his interests, in his associations, in his habits of thought, and in his prejudices, he was a white man.
He was preeminently the white mans President, entirely devoted to the welfare of white men. He was ready and willing at any time during the first years of his administration to deny, postpone, and sacrifice the rights of humanity in the colored people to promote the welfare of the white people of this country. In all his education and feeling he was an American of the Americans.
He came into the Presidential chair upon one principle alone, namely, opposition to the extension of slavery. His arguments in furtherance of this policy had their motive and mainspring in his patriotic devotion to the interests of his own race. To protect, defend, and perpetuate slavery in the states where it existed Abraham Lincoln was not less ready than any other President to draw the sword of the nation. He was ready to execute all the supposed guarantees of the United States Constitution in favor of the slave system anywhere inside the slave states.
He was willing to pursue, recapture, and send back the fugitive slave to his master, and to suppress a slave rising for liberty, though his guilty master were already in arms against the Government. The race to which we belong were not the special objects of his consideration.
Knowing this, I concede to you, my white fellow-citizens, a pre-eminence in this worship at once full and supreme. First, midst, and last, you and yours were the objects of his deepest affection and his most earnest solicitude. You are the children of Abraham Lincoln. We are at best only his step-children; children by adoption, children by forces of circumstances and necessity.
To you it especially belongs to sound his praises, to preserve and perpetuate his memory, to multiply his statues, to hang his pictures high upon your walls, and commend his example, for to you he was a great and glorious friend and benefactor. Instead of supplanting you at his altar, we would exhort you to build high his monuments; let them be of the most costly material, of the most cunning workmanship; let their forms be symmetrical, beautiful, and perfect, let their bases be upon solid rocks, and their summits lean against the unchanging blue, overhanging sky, and let them endure forever!
But while in the abundance of your wealth, and in the fullness of your just and patriotic devotion, you do all this, we entreat you to despise not the humble offering we this day unveil to view; for while Abraham Lincoln saved for you a country, he delivered us from a bondage, according to Jefferson, one hour of which was worse than ages of the oppression your fathers rose in rebellion to oppose.
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/oration-in-memory-of-abraham-lincoln/
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