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The Merger of ISIS and al-Qaeda Could Cripple the Civilized World
The Fiscal Times ^ | October 10, 2014 | BY RIYADH MOHAMMED

Posted on 10/11/2014 12:51:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

As ISIS continues to advance on the Syrian town of Kobani and close in on Turkey’s border, experts in Islamic radical movements think the terror group may merge with its al-Qaeda mother organization soon. Together, the group would represent the greatest terror threat to the civilized world.

“I think Britain, Germany and France will witness significant attacks in their territories by the Islamic State. Al-Baghdadi [the leader of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, otherwise known as ISIS] may reconcile with al-Zawhiri [the leader of the al-Qaeda central organization] to fight the crusader enemy. The attacks by the United States and her allies will unite the two groups,” said Hisham al-Hashimi, an Iraqi researcher who just finished writing a book about ISIS based on his unique access to the organization’s documents and years of research and advising Iraqi security forces. al-Zawahiri

“I have been monitoring al-Qaeda’s leaders’ rhetoric towards Baghdadi. They are getting softer and softer….The Islamic State, regardless of how big or small it becomes, will come back to its mother: al-Qaeda,” he added.

The break between the Islamic State and al-Qaeda ISIS and al-Qaeda have a long, tangled history with one another. ISIS was the al-Qaeda official branch in Iraq until last February. However, they finally split after disagreements over operations in Syria.

The recent US intervention in the region along with the new US-led airstrike campaign against ISIS has actually forced the two groups to renew negotiations. For example, recent reports suggested that ISIS and al-Nusra Front are together planning the war against...

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedaontherun; alqaedaspring; isis; islam; obama; obamaforeignpolicy; obamalegacy
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To: Jim Robinson

Seeing as how Islam, at least Iran Islam declared war on the infidels, the West, The United States of America specifically in 1979 I’d think as it’s now been 35 years, and however many attacks, assaults, deaths of our people around the World that it’s about time we return the favor, and kick their butts further back into the Stone Age.

NOT going to happen with more than one of them inhabiting the government structures in D.C., so it’s up to us to get off our butts, and remove everyone involved with this disgrace.


41 posted on 10/11/2014 2:13:32 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: Jim Robinson

Panetta talks like Obama is on our side. He sure isn’t connecting that loyalty to me though. I have ammo but the CIC needs to do his job.


42 posted on 10/11/2014 2:19:53 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Jim Robinson

More and more, I’m thinking the B-52s are going to have their day.


43 posted on 10/11/2014 2:30:15 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Merger? They're BOTH CIA creations! Just like preezee!

We need to overthrow the alphabets of tyranny at home before we even think of doing it any where else!

44 posted on 10/11/2014 2:38:42 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Well, was it Chesty or George or some other American officer who, when surrounded on all sides told his superior on the radio “good, now we can attack in all directions”!!!!

Lesson vis a vis ISIS, let them have their “state”. Then, other states, either out of fear, revenge or whatever, can and should simultaneously launch a nuclear attack on the ISIS state. It won’t be pretty or clean and there will be collateral damage. But, ISIS , in one blinding second, will cease to exist,

Nagasaki and Hiroshima today, 69 years later, are thriving municipalities!

And, oh by the way, while all these countries are at, might as well throw Iran and Qatar and Saudi Arabia into the attack to.

Move all US personnel out first!


45 posted on 10/11/2014 2:51:51 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

what are the SIGNS that the AIRSTRIKES ARE WORKING?

If the air strikes were working...code Pink would be
throwing themselves over the White house fence.


46 posted on 10/11/2014 2:56:39 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: txhurl
Buy off those who are harboring them or know their whereabouts. Make sure the locals understand PMCs can pop right back in at the sign of trouble within minutes instead of waiting months for some defense appropriation or UN deal.
What you say is ALL GOOD.

Bounties work, we used to call the Letters of Marque.
Yes, bounties work.
You KNOW there ARE bounty hunters out there.

47 posted on 10/11/2014 3:01:38 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Jim Robinson

The civilized world will cripple itself for lake of BALLS! The murderers should be turned to dust but the liberal eliti
sts are stuck on stupid


48 posted on 10/11/2014 3:07:13 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: ronnie raygun
The civilized world will cripple itself for lake of BALLS!

Where is this brave lake of which you speak?

49 posted on 10/11/2014 3:23:37 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Do lakes have balls?

5.56mm


50 posted on 10/11/2014 3:29:49 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Windflier

The next asset in a serious situation.


51 posted on 10/11/2014 3:38:05 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN ..AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: tet68

A good point my brother brought up is when ISIS takes over these areas, they pretty much kill everybody. And those they don’t kill support them, however they decide that. They stay behind because they support them. I mean seriously, why would a person stay behind when thousands of killers who behead people while they are alive are coming? So the potential for collateral damage/civilian casualties/ innocent casualties is pretty much zero. Basically you got ISIS in a barrel, we could easily crush them like bugs by bombing the F out of them. But the Kenyan won’t do it. Why? Because he supports them, he’s a radical Muslim himself. What other rational explanation is there? He doesn’t want to be “The war President”? Too late, he already is involved. Does he think people will protest him? Is he kidding? The entire world wants these effers DEAD! Even IRAN! So that leaves the only logical explanation - He is a hardcore radical Muslim himself. The Democrat party in all their wisdom put the enemy in the nations highest office no different from electing a Nazi as President during WW2.


52 posted on 10/11/2014 3:49:19 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Obama Will Say 'War on Women' But Not 'War on ISIS)
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To: Jim Robinson

How many of these countries who are supposedly threatened by ISIS or this proposed merger of ISIS/AQ are actively involved in fighting them? How many have ‘boots on the ground’ and everything else in this fight?

Or is it just the USA doing everyone’s dirty work for them again?

Israel will do what it takes to protect itself and has proven it will do so, so I don’t have a problem with giving them arms/equipment or even air support.

The other countries, not so much. How about they take some of the money from their generous social safety net, health care, 5 weeks paid vacations, etc and put it toward defense?

I’m not seeing the information I want to see about Europe, which is RIGHT NEXT DOOR to all this, not to mention all their Muslim immigrants. What are they putting into this fight?

Seriously tired of us having to do it all (and always getting ragged on for ‘interfering’ in the middle east).


53 posted on 10/11/2014 3:52:41 PM PDT by Lorianne (.)
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To: txhurl

Who is going to pay them?

I don’t want to. Let the countries who are begging for protection pay them.


54 posted on 10/11/2014 3:55:47 PM PDT by Lorianne (.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Yeah... in that case we use the neutron, kill the enemy, save the architecture.


55 posted on 10/11/2014 3:56:27 PM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Why are we bombing? We don’t even know who we are bombing and who we are protecting.

If Muslims are killing other Muslims we should just get out of the way.


56 posted on 10/11/2014 3:58:11 PM PDT by Lorianne (.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Agreed, Arclight them.


57 posted on 10/11/2014 3:58:19 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Jim Robinson

So, RIYADH MOHAMMED, a scribbler at Fiscal Times, suddenly is an expert in Middle East battlefield strategy...?

Hahahahhahhhah!

Next, Fiscal Times will be running ads for plumbers willing to do brain surgery.


58 posted on 10/11/2014 4:00:38 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I agree.

However, there are 11-13,000 people in Kobani. They will be slaughtered.

That said, I don’t know how many Yazidis have died.


59 posted on 10/11/2014 4:00:52 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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Solution (requires the election of the right person as the next POTUS) ...

and this could wait until then, things are not going to move that fast ...

early in 2017, inform the Muslim world the problem is theirs to fix and they have four years (first term in other words) ...

suggestion being, the “moderate” Muslims (if there be any) would get together, figure out how to eliminate ISIS and Al Qaeda, and do it within four years ...

if they fail, or balk, then part two is that we eliminate all aspects of Islamic terror, top to bottom, as we see fit

,,,

and if they don’t like it, too bad, we’re fed up and can’t wait another generation for Islam to snap out of it.

Liberals would go nuts, they could be ignored because after eight years of Obama, there won’t be more than a handful of liberals in Congress, and hopefully nowhere near the administration either.

What’s good about putting the burden on the Muslims themselves is that it might accelerate the modernization that can be seen (vaguely) in a few places, and get them to do what they have failed to do in fourteen centuries, define their religion properly and give the rest of the world somebody who is authorized to speak for them — at the moment, the situation is too nebulous, and frankly it invites an over-reaction such as getting rid of all Muslims.

I would not say that in this two-part program, we would all just sit around to wait and see what happens. Some proactive steps could be taken against terrorism threats against our countries and our interests in the region, but as to military confrontation of ISIS and Al Qaeda type groups, this would have to be spearheaded by whatever Islamic countries were prepared to fight them. If none are then they should be very clearly informed that phase two would be a region-wide cleanup on a massive scale on our terms, and if it didn’t suit them, tough.


60 posted on 10/11/2014 4:01:28 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Pray for the restoration of a strong and free USA)
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