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Austrian Teenagers Who Joined ISIS Now Regret the Move
National Review ^ | October 10, 2014 | Charles C. W. Cooke

Posted on 10/11/2014 10:30:38 AM PDT by grundle

Today in predictable news:

The teenage girls who abandoned their families in Austria to become jihadis for ISIS feel they’ve made a terrible mistake by joining the barbaric lifestyle and they want to come home.

Samra Kesinovic, 17, and Sabina Selimovic, 15, are believed to be married, pregnant and living in the Islamic State-controlled city of Raqqa in northern Syria, Central European News reports.

Evidently, the move didn’t work out as the pair had hoped:

The change of heart is a much different tune than the note they left behind for their parents when they fled back in April, which read: “Don’t look for us. We will serve Allah — and we will die for him.”

Kesinovic and Selimovic grew up in Vienna, where they became accustomed to talking to whomever they wanted, saying whatever they pleased and wearing whatever clothes they liked. They did not have to live a life being controlled by people telling them what they can and cannot do.

I can’t quite blame the girls here. If they were 30, this would be a different story: In that case, they should be expected to deal with the consequences of their actions. But they’re not. They’re teenagers — too young to drink, to buy cigarettes, to own property, to join the military, and to vote. We have an age of majority for a good reason.

As I have noted before, totalitarianism is sadly attractive to the bored and the disaffected, and, as anybody who has either been a teenager or spent time around one knows, there are few people more bored and disaffected than they. At its root, this story is merely an extremely dramatic version of the age-old running-away-from-home-to-be-with-my-older-boyfriend tale. Except, that is, that the boyfriend doesn’t just have a motorcycle and an attitude, he has a rocket launcher and a death wish.

Sadly, it seems possible that the girls will not be able to return. Per the New York Post:

“The main problem is about people coming back to Austria,” said Austrian Interior Ministry spokesman Karl-Heinz Grundboeck. “Once they leave, it is almost impossible.”

This is tricky, certainly. Still, I was a little irritated by the implication in a preceding line:

Now Austrian media are reporting that Kesinovic and Selimovic have said enough is enough and want to return to their families, according to CEN.

They have contacted their loved ones and told them they are sick of living with the Islamic State jihadis, but they also said they don’t feel they can flee from their unwanted new life because too many people now associate them with ISIS.

Austria has its problems. But the challenge the girls face is not so much that their fellow countrymen will judge them harshly if they return as that they have both thrown in their lots with a cabal of psychotic killers who would happily execute them in broad daylight if they so much as inquired as to how they could get out of Raqqah. I daresay that, if they were to get back to Vienna, they’d get some odd looks on the street. Fair enough. But, however judgmental their fellow countrymen might be, they would be unlikely to execute them for apostasy. Really, anybody who is laboring under the impression that the biggest potential drawback to shacking up with ISIS is that they might lose their golf club membership if it doesn’t work out doesn’t grasp who they are dealing with here. Which, of course, is precisely how the pair got themselves into this situation in the first instance.


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To: grundle
They’re teenagers — too young to drink, to buy cigarettes, to own property, to join the military, and to vote. We have an age of majority for a good reason.

Own property? Thanks to their astonishingly stupid decision to join a group of terrorists whose major hobbies are rape and murder, they are property. I feel sorry for them, but Darwin wouldn't.

41 posted on 10/11/2014 11:32:08 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: grundle

So these two Mensa candidates got “sexed in” to the world’s most violent gang, and now they want to come home.

This is what happens when you don’t tell your kids the truth about islam.


42 posted on 10/11/2014 11:39:15 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: grundle

I read some of the “let them rot in their hell” comments on here and wonder if some of you have never been fifteen years old. At that age, I had this plan that I was going to run away from home with two other kids. At the last minute, I turned chicken. I had a decent home and no reason to do this. It was only the idea of the adventure. These two girls, living in a Western country, with no idea of what the real world was like,had stars in their eyes and maybe thought they were going on a Disneyland type of adventure. All you on here who condemn them to a hellish life, be honest! How would you feel if they were your own daughters? I know I would never turn my back on mine.


43 posted on 10/11/2014 11:40:53 AM PDT by navyblue (<u> Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: grundle

What part of ‘islam’ did they not get?


44 posted on 10/11/2014 11:41:10 AM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: grundle

Too bad they chose to serve the pagan moon-god “Allah” instead of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.


45 posted on 10/11/2014 11:46:11 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: navyblue

My feelings are that Western Nations must have some real stinking incompetence, or possibly even members of ISIS in Europe. How could the teens leave the nation? Pass off as adults? Did anyone ask questions? Were they friends or have a boyfriend in ISIS? Something stinks really bad giveb what hapoened.


46 posted on 10/11/2014 11:49:25 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: grundle

I can’t quite blame the girls here. If they were 30, this would be a different story: In that case, they should be expected to deal with the consequences of their actions. But they’re not. They’re teenagers — too young to drink, to buy cigarettes, to own property, to join the military, and to vote. We have an age of majority for a good reason.


No. Sorry. There’s no excuse for doing something this stupid. Even though the media portrays islamic thugs as “romantic” anyone should see how they treat women.


47 posted on 10/11/2014 11:51:16 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: TomGuy

The jihadist propaganda shows off some token women warriors,but the jihadists are a law unto themselves, the propaganda is moot for the real jihadists.


48 posted on 10/11/2014 11:55:02 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: grundle

Oops! probably headless by now...


49 posted on 10/11/2014 11:58:45 AM PDT by databoss
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To: databoss

Well, reminds me all too well of the film called “Taken”. Probably locked up in a compound right now, or maybe even executed, if they don’t follow orders.


50 posted on 10/11/2014 12:04:36 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: grundle

What, there was no one in IS they could speak Austrian to?


51 posted on 10/11/2014 12:09:55 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Morpheus2009; databoss

Probably locked up in a compound right now, or maybe even executed, if they don’t follow orders.


They’ll keep em alive as long as they’re still somewhat “cute.” Someone will be happy to enjoy using them.


52 posted on 10/11/2014 12:14:39 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Capt. Tom

Close. But the real story is that westerners simply cannot fathom someone taking religion so seriously that they would kill, or even die over it.


53 posted on 10/11/2014 12:15:32 PM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: grundle

“And they that rolleth a stone, it shall return upon them” - The Good Book.


54 posted on 10/11/2014 12:16:52 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: alloysteel

Our President, when in Austria, apologized for not being able to speak any ‘Austrian’.


55 posted on 10/11/2014 12:30:56 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (Go, Cruz! Go!)
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To: BenLurkin

Islam, being a fascist ideology, requires the adherent to speak Arabic. All Moslems do - perhaps not fluently and not in the local dialect, but they all are conversant in Koranic Arabic.


56 posted on 10/11/2014 12:37:14 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (Go, Cruz! Go!)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

I wish I spoke Latin so I could talk to Latin Americans.


57 posted on 10/11/2014 12:54:07 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: grundle

“The teenage girls who abandoned their families in Austria to become jihadis for ISIS feel they’ve made a terrible mistake by joining the barbaric lifestyle and they want to come home.”

Too bad. They are old enough to know better and now must face the consequences. No one should risk their lives to bring these sniveling brats home. May God have mercy on them, because we know that Allah and his Demons will show none.


58 posted on 10/11/2014 1:27:17 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo (Power always thinks.. that it is doing God's service when it is violating all his laws. -John Adams)
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To: nuconvert

That’s what I am thinking.


59 posted on 10/11/2014 1:29:57 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: Morpheus2009

You should watch the movie Osama. It was the first movie filmed in Afghanistan after the war. It is about a young girl, named Osama, who is starving to death, along with her mother, after her father is killed in the war. She has to pose as a boy to be able to work. I am betting those girls are living that movie right now.

Truly what nightmares are made of.


60 posted on 10/11/2014 1:58:29 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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