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CAIR sues gun range for refusing to allow Muslims.
Yahoo News ^ | 10/09/2014 | Dylan Stableford

Posted on 10/10/2014 11:51:45 AM PDT by ar15cz75

"This is not a coffee and donut shop," Jan Morgan, owner of the Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range in Hot Springs, Ark., wrote in an online post last month. "This is a live fire indoor shooting range ... Why would I want to rent or sell a gun and hand ammunition to someone who aligns himself with a religion that commands him to kill me?"

Morgan, who says she has "read and studied" the Koran thoroughly, found "109 verses commanding hate, murder and terror against all human beings who refuse to submit or convert to Islam." ... Morgan claims that when she received her license to sell guns, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives informed her "that if we feel ANY reason for concern about selling someone a firearm, even sense that something is not right about an individual, or if we are concerned about that [person's] mental state, even if they pass a background check, we do not have to sell that person a gun. Two different ATF agents stressed that it is better to err on the side of caution. In other words, a federal agency has given [gun shops] discretion on firearms deals.

"I understand that not all Muslims are terrorists," Morgan continued. "I also believe there are as many Muslims who do not know what is in their Koran as there are Christians who do not know what is in their Bible. Since I have no way of discerning which Muslims will or will not kill in the name of their religion and the commands in their Koran, I choose to err on the side of caution for the safety of my patrons."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; arkansas; banglist; cair; dylanstableford; guns; hotsprings; islam; janmorgan; jihad
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To: jsanders2001

You can also network such that payments don’t have to come through CAIR at all.

They are merely the agents of donations.

They use their organizational skills to express a need to deep pockets, and those deep pockets donate to where CAIR directs them to.

I agree with your take on this. You can be very creative when you want to.

CAIR should be an outlawed terrorist outlet. Each of the Islamic special interest concerns are IMO.


81 posted on 10/10/2014 12:37:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: CatOwner

When did the owner lose the right to their private property? If I have a permit from the government to cut hair, can I cut your hair if I walk into your back yard?

Shooting guns isn’t a right as the government has shown.


82 posted on 10/10/2014 12:39:16 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: ar15cz75

My range allows muzzies. One of the targets you can buy there is an Achmed target.


83 posted on 10/10/2014 12:41:35 PM PDT by Old Yeller (D.A.M.N. - Deport All Muslims Now! Starting in the White House.)
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To: ar15cz75

Create a questionnaire for membership.

Do you belong to a group that teaches the mass killing of people not belonging to your group?
Do you belong to a group that teaches the extermination of Jews and Christians?
Do you belong to a group that teaches the practice of slavery?
Do you belong to a group that advocates physical punishment of women?


84 posted on 10/10/2014 12:46:40 PM PDT by lurk
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To: BuffaloJack

Tell that to the people being forced to provide wedding services to homosexual couples.


85 posted on 10/10/2014 12:48:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Agreed.


86 posted on 10/10/2014 12:50:29 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: ar15cz75

Morgan has a REAL chance here to expose the Koran in all its murderous bile - and expose CAIR as the American arm of Hamas. If she got a few million behind her, this could devastate the Virtual Caliphate, and they would cry uncle.


87 posted on 10/10/2014 12:51:05 PM PDT by montag813
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To: ar15cz75

How does she determine if someone is muslim or not?


88 posted on 10/10/2014 12:57:41 PM PDT by katnip (I hate thieves....)
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To: Jacquerie
That's my question too. Twenty years ago I had never heard of a mosque in the US. Now, they are all over the land. Who is building them? What foreign nations fund CAIR?

Austria just banned all foreign funds for mosques and Muslim organizations.

89 posted on 10/10/2014 12:58:52 PM PDT by montag813
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To: thackney

This lawsuit was a foregone conclusion as soon as the owner’s decision to bar people on the basis of their religion made the news. Solution would probably be to declare the range a private club with an initiation fee and membership review committee. And a requirement that all members must use bullets dipped in a bit of pork fat wouldn’t hurt.


90 posted on 10/10/2014 12:59:58 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: ar15cz75

A private business should be able to decline to do business anyone for any reason no matter how serious or how frivolous.

I would support this even if he were not allowing Christians or Buddhists or whatever. It makes no difference. It is his business and his choice.

That said, I don’t know how you would know in some cases what a person’s religion is. So it doesn’t make a lot of logical sense. Even so, he should have the option of declining to do business with anyone he chooses.


91 posted on 10/10/2014 1:03:01 PM PDT by Lorianne (.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

You are, in part. Contributions to CAIR are tax deductible. It’s a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization.


92 posted on 10/10/2014 1:06:23 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: BuffaloJack

This is not discrimination, because many businesses are under legal regimes in which they cannot be compelled to provide products or services to people for whom that would be inappropriate.

Bars cannot be forced to sell alcohol to a person who is underage, a person who is inebriated, a pregnant woman, etc.

Restaurants cannot be compelled to serve people who are not wearing shirts and shoes.

And those who sell guns and ammo have huge latitude to who they can refuse to sell, including their subjective opinion.


93 posted on 10/10/2014 1:26:13 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: WayneS
Where does it say that in the US Constitution?

It's in the penumbra, alongside abortion, the right to gay "marriage" and and all the other nonsense liberals pretend is in there.

94 posted on 10/10/2014 1:27:38 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: ar15cz75

What happened to freedom of association?


95 posted on 10/10/2014 1:30:10 PM PDT by HammerT (The Right to keep and bear arms: A Commonsense Civil Right)
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To: ar15cz75

She needs to do like they did at LAKE NIXON west of Little Rock back in the 1960s to keep “undesirables” out of their swimming areas.

They sold memberships for a small amount. Any undesirable who came up they said they were out of memberships.

It worked for a while.


96 posted on 10/10/2014 1:31:38 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Pollster1

Phew.

I was afraid I’d missed it in the main body or in the amendments...

;-)


97 posted on 10/10/2014 1:37:32 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: dware

Texas? The range is in Hot Springs, Arkansas.

Try reading even the first line of the excerpt.


98 posted on 10/10/2014 1:39:09 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: iceskater

We need more like her.


99 posted on 10/10/2014 1:41:42 PM PDT by stillfree? (Tagline? We don't need no stinking taglines!)
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To: ar15cz75

Islam is at war with Eastern civilization and America in particular. Why would an America want to be standing next to a muslim at a gun range with the muslim having gun?????


100 posted on 10/10/2014 1:42:48 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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