Posted on 10/08/2014 4:10:24 PM PDT by Third Person
It came without warning. It would start with a howling noise from a senior football player at Sayreville War Memorial High School, and then the locker room lights were abruptly shut off. In the darkness, a freshman football player would be pinned to the locker-room floor, his arms and feet held down by multiple upperclassmen. Then, the victim would be lifted to his feet while a finger was forced into his rectum. Sometimes, the same finger was then shoved into the freshman player’s mouth. This disturbing hazing within the storied Sayreville football program, as told to NJ Advance Media on Wednesday by the parent of a player in the program, happened almost every day in the locker room this fall, he said. The allegations — for the first time — provide details to the events that sparked a criminal investigation by local and county police, and prompted the cancellation of the remainder of the Sayreville football season this week by Superintendent of Schools Richard Labbe. The parent, informed by his son and other parents close to the investigation, is the first to come forward to reveal the hazing practices Labbe has characterized as “incidences of harassment, intimidation and bullying as constituted by the definition within the anti-bullying statute that took place on a pervasive level, on a wide-scale level, and at a level in which the players knew, tolerated, and in general accepted.” According to the parent, whose identity is being protected because the parent feared retribution against the family and the player, the routine was initiated when an upperclassman would enter the locker room and make a wolf call or howling noise.
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The appeal of wrestling has always been a mystery to me. I mean, who wants to be grappling with a sweaty, stinky, half-naked male?
...a sweaty, stinky, half-naked female comes to mind, though admittedly not on a wrestling mat...and it wasn’t too long ago that school officials thought it was a peachy keen idea to have co-ed high school wrestling...
...the more I see of some people, the more I marvel at their stupidity...
Wow, I just had a senior piss on my leg in the shower. No one stuck anything near my bum.
...brings back memories of high school sports and wet towel snapping...along with coarse and degrading language...I wish I’d asserted myself more back then, would’ve been a lot better off...
...never did understand the need for such nonsense, since what we were all doing was playing the sport we loved...nor did I grasp why the coaches never seemed to notice this...never heard of out and out buggery, though, and am glad of it...
There’s a contingent on FR who– if they’re not actually in the employ of Penn State– are doing its bidding in everything they possibly can to impugn the investigators and prosecutors while at the same time trying to rehabilitate everyone at PU except Sandusky.
...a strident few in central Pennsylvania believe Sandusky didn’t do anything he was convicted of...in fairness, I stress the word few...
If you are from Kearny or Harrison then it is mixed.
...my father worked in Harrison for 22 years, and had a near fatal heart attack at 47 to prove it...
...I grew up in Union County, and spent many hours riding or driving along Route 22, Scotch Plains to Secaucus...I hated it then (late 1950’s-mid 1960’s), and I don’t suppose it has improved too much since I left...
I know, right? When did it become OK to “violate” someone. No one, and I mean no one, would have put up with that in the locker room. And if a coach found out about they would not tolerate it. And if the coach found out about it, the parents would have been told. I can assure you none of our Dad’s would have appreciated that either.
We had something similar happen at a local high school a few years ago. What was once making the freshmen stand on a chair in the shower singing the school fight song had turned into some sado masochistic sex thing these days.
When the kids (once they got caught) said, this has been going on for years...everyone who had been through it for the past twenty years was pretty clear that it wasn’t like THAT for them. It changed about fives years ago, out of the blue.
Another sign of the decline of western civilization I guess.
would the act be worse if it were carried out by a same-sex attracted man, vs one who just gets off on dominance and cruelty?
...a thug doing it vs a homosexual doing it makes the horror of the act no different...but the question is, what is the likelihood of a thug who does this not having latent queer desires...we can only deal with likelihoods, as there is no data (thankfully) existing that tracks this sort of bizarre behavior...
...the average person, I imagine, would find that likelihood of a straight thug engaging in buggery quite remote...
No, actually, not typical sadists. Typical sadists like to inflict pain. Most of us have the capacity for sadism. We think of someone who wishes to hurt our children, as an example, and we can think sadistic things to do to the perpetrator. Even if one regards entertaining such thoughts as sinful, they are nonetheless fairly typical, fairly normal thoughts for those justly provoked.
I, myself, can think up elaborate activities for those who have gravely injured me or especially, my wife or family. Some of these activities can even include violation of bodily integrity.
But because I'm relatively normal, sexually, I have to tell you, I've never for a moment entertained thoughts of personal contact with another male’s private parts, front or back. Just way, way too disgusting. I can entertain all sorts of fun & cruel tortures that could result in all sorts of maiming, permanent injury, and death. I have no problem with, for instance, thinking about the idea of castrating a rapist (with appropriate hardware), but the idea of actually doing to another male what these fellows were doing is beyond even my own crueler self.
Folks who engage in objectively homosexual touching, even if they tell themselves they're just doing it to torture the individuals, are harboring deviant, homosexual thoughts and urges, wittingly or not.
I went to an all-boys school that is famous for its sports program. I can tell you that this sort of behavior is initiated by folks with homosexual tendencies. There are plenty of ways straight dudes can humiliate others, can be cruel to others, without having to touch the insides of another guy's rear end.
As well, remember, homosexuals are essentially heterosexuals who have been twisted, bent, perverted. There is no such thing as “homosexuality” that stands alone. It is always a perversion of what is natural. Thus, too, there is no one who is strictly homosexual, although some may be nearly so, practically speaking. But this is why we see men proclaiming themselves to be homosexual after long lives as married men, often with broods of children, to the utter shock of their wives. Because the truth is, “homosexuals” are just folks with a deeply twisted sexuality. And most homosexuals have a streak of sexual violence that is a mile long and mile wide.
By the way, the “typical” homosexual is usually delighted to have penetration with a 14 year-old male, and will often use moderately coercive means if he can get away with it. It's called “chicken hawking.” As for forcible sex, many homosexuals aren't brain dead, and they realize that forcible rape can be a fast way to prison.
I've known homosexuals, and known they were homosexual, since I was in college, which is a fairly long time ago, now. When I was younger, I just didn't care. My attitude was, don't tell me your sins and I won't tell you mine. We can still drink beer together, or whatever. But homosexuals were publicly much less aggressive than they are now. It isn't because they were better folks then than now, but rather, homosexuals are usually liars and frauds.
Having gained the foothold of respectability in western society, they have quickly moved from “tolerance” and “acceptance” to coercion of all of us to accept their perversions as normal, natural, and intrinsically-good.
sitetest
You may be right. But I always think of the cops that shoved a broomstick up the rectum of Abner Louima back, it must have been 15 - 20 years ago. While he was is custody. Big case at the time. I wonder of all those Brooklyn law enforcement officers were gay?
See mine at #89
I wouldn't get the motivation at all. Why even think of it?
No offense, mind you ... I do that quite a bit myself. LOL.
"Retarded inbreds." LMAO.
Sometimes the “investigators and prosecutors” are wrong Irish. You know that, and probably much more of what I post on to be the truth - until proven otherwise.
Interesting counter by the ncaa the other day to file an appeal in Federal court - trying to trump the recent PA judge’s decision on Corman vs. ncaa.
I think the well schooled know that this is a desperate grab. This, as well as JVP/ncaa-PSU is going to discovery. Period. That is why all these suits were filed in the first place - including Jay’s, and Spanier/Freeh defamation suit.
To get these people under oath to explain what they did, and why they did it.
The witness list (under oath, unlike anyone freeh tried to talk to): ALL of 11-9-11 PSU BOT, Freeh, Erickson, Emmert, Ray, and many more.
Unless that senior was a female, I see a distinction without a difference. Let me see, as a heterosexual male would I like to engage in manual sodomy or golden showers with another male. I will pick neither for the simple reason I'm not gay. Good thing this did not happen a decade ago because the Governor would have hopped over the Raritan from Woodbridge to get in on the action. Hey, as the Diceman once said, either you do or you don't. I'm proudly in the don't category, 100%. Unfortunately for you, less than 100%. The incident you described with nostalgia brings down your rating.
I am not sure, but I think that may have been part of the motivation when the Brooklyn cops assaulted Abner Louima by penetrating his rectum with a broomstick (see #89).
What filthy evil.
Don't think for a minute that the case that you cite didn't involve the desire for sexual torture.
But, there are reasons why a broomstick was used and not actual body parts. Most normal heterosexual men are not only not aroused by personal touching of other men's private areas, but are actually repulsed, at least moderately, by such behavior. The use of the broom handle permits the torturer to at once inflict his sadistic cruelty while nonetheless refraining from physical intimacy.
To do what these homo wrestlers did is to go beyond the desire to sexually torture and a desire to do so in a way where they become intimate with their victims.
sitetest
What you describe might beat Sayreville. Your friend described himself engaging in a gay live sex show of the most hardcore variety, and criminal to boot. If I’m not mistaken, the sex acts your friend engaged in even today is condidered obscene under the law. If someone filmed a reenactment of the scene they would be doing prison time. I never thought I would see the day that someone on FR would describe the most vile of homosexual acts as just gross, like no big thing. Amazing.
True; if you are from northern Bergen County, the rest of the state (except parts of Morris County) is a dump.
If I did that what would we argue about???
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