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Why Ebola Probably Won't Go Airborne
BI ^ | 10-6-2014 | Kevin Loria

Posted on 10/06/2014 2:26:07 PM PDT by blam

Kevin Loria
October 6, 2014

The idea that Ebola could go airborne is terrifying.

Once you are infected, few diseases are more likely to kill you — and death by hemorrhagic fever, diarrhea and vomiting often accompanied by bleeding and organ failure, sounds particularly awful. At present it's hard to get infected — healthcare workers and family members caring for victims are at highest risk — but that would change if the virus were to mutate so that it could be transmitted through the air while keeping its present lethality.

That's a nightmare scenario.

But it's more the stuff of bad dreams than of reality. There's no known precedent for a virus to change in that way.

It is theoretically possible — everything in nature changes and evolves. Some health officials highlight this as a reason to act now to contain the disease. Anthony Branbury, the UN's Ebola chief (who is not a doctor or an Ebola researcher), recently said the possibility of an airborne mutation shouldn't be ruled out.

Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, floated the possibility of airborne Ebola in a New York Times op-ed titled "What We're Afraid to Say About Ebola." He made the argument that since there are so many more Ebola cases now, more than there have ever been, the virus has more opportunities to mutate than it ever has, which makes an airborne mutation more possible.

Osterholm wrote "that virologists are loath to discuss [this possible mutation] openly but are definitely considering [it] in private."

This argument is supposed to motivate governments to act to get the virus under control before the devastation in West Africa gets worse — and that's important.

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To: wrench

The first known outbreak killed about 300 people over a similar time frame, and was not a slow burn. Neither was the 1995 outbreak.


41 posted on 10/06/2014 3:41:46 PM PDT by FredZarguna (His first name is 'Unarmed,' and his given middle name is 'Teenager.')
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To: catnipman

“THE STAND” here we come!

Let’s face it, Bill Ayres would do it in a NY nano second. Not the slightest doubt in my mind...


42 posted on 10/06/2014 3:53:13 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Jonty30
Unless the cameraman, for example, only was in Africa for less than a night, it’s possible he might have gotten it when he used some facilities, a shower or a toilet or perhaps he used salt from an inadequately washed salt shaker.

In other words, it's easy to get infected.

43 posted on 10/06/2014 3:53:19 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: FredZarguna

Plus it’s in a cooler climate now. Its offspring might like that since it known that it survives longer without a host the lower the temp gets.


44 posted on 10/06/2014 4:00:19 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Clean_Sweep

The proper term is aerosol.


45 posted on 10/06/2014 4:07:40 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Karl Spooner

Wow. This gets more interesting. The FDA and WHO sure has a lot of influence in Africa.

http://www.thescoopng.com/fg-says-will-longer-give-nano-silver-ebola-patients/


46 posted on 10/06/2014 4:11:41 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: blam

ummm - they’re already said it cold b e transported thru a victims sneezes - that’s AIRBORNE


47 posted on 10/06/2014 4:11:53 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Karl Spooner

Wow. This gets more interesting.

http://www.thescoopng.com/fg-says-will-longer-give-nano-silver-ebola-patients/


48 posted on 10/06/2014 4:14:18 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner

For anyone who has a nose. Take my posts here in order.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Africa/2014/1006/Nigeria-contains-Ebola-and-US-officials-want-to-know-more


49 posted on 10/06/2014 4:27:44 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: blam

There’s no known precedent for a virus to change in that way.
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50 posted on 10/06/2014 4:38:04 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Barak Hussein Obama (Baghdad Barry)- the first step into a thousand years of darkness.)
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To: SargeK

“Infectious dose is believed to be 1-10 virus particles by aerosol. So says:”

Aerosol, does that have something to do with air, like in airborne ?


51 posted on 10/06/2014 4:38:26 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: blam

Yes, by all means - when threatened by a lethal plague, endorse taking comfort from... cheery wishing and hoping.


52 posted on 10/06/2014 4:39:44 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: blam

It’s already “airborne” in the respect that we still inexplicably* have unrestricted international flights landing here from risk nations ...


53 posted on 10/06/2014 4:47:35 PM PDT by mikrofon (* Maybe not so much.)
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To: blam
Whenever disease is in the news there's always confusion about many things. Ebola is highly infectious but it is not terribly contagious. A pathogen's infectiousness is a measure of how much of a "dose" of it do you need to become infected. For Ebola, you need just a few virus particles to become infected, so if the virus is present in the environment you need to be very careful. But the only way the virus gets into the environment is if an infected individual is exhibiting symptoms and "shedding" virus. That's why Ebola is not very contagious.

NPR has a recent article explaining this by comparing the contagiousness of Ebola to other diseases, which is worth reading.

The reason medical personnel wear protective gear when treating Ebola patients is that they are in close proximity to symptomatic patients who are thus actively shedding Ebola virons. Unless you are in close proximity to an infected individual who is in this state, there is very little danger of contracting the disease.

The one "wildcard" in the equation is the mobility of the host population. In remote African villages people tend to stay close together, which is why it spreads locally but doesn't move around a lot. But as people become more mobile, an infected individual can cover a wider area, potentially shedding virus along the way, before not being able to move further, thereby containing their ability to propagate the virus to new areas. So the time between onset of symptoms and how far you can go before you're bed-ridden, is one of the key measures that I don't believe anyone is really addressing right now.

54 posted on 10/06/2014 4:58:09 PM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: blam
It's already airborne. Sneezing and coughing produce sprays of tiny droplets. Droplets of bodily fluids that can carry the virus.

It needn't be airborne to spread, though. the CDC says: "Ebola dried on surfaces such as doorknobs and countertops can survive for several hours."

55 posted on 10/06/2014 5:25:41 PM PDT by Spirochete (GOP: Give Obama Power)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping…

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

56 posted on 10/06/2014 8:02:21 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: discostu

Right about Hantavirus. There was an outbreak in Montana years back, too.


57 posted on 10/06/2014 8:04:28 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for the ping!


58 posted on 10/06/2014 9:30:31 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

You’re Welcome, Alamo-Girl!


59 posted on 10/07/2014 12:16:33 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: blam

no matter how slim the chance it mutates like that its simply too high considering the devastating nature of the disease to act in any fashion except to assume it will. Never has the phrase better safe than sorry been more applicable.


60 posted on 10/07/2014 12:53:30 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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