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Enlisted women to begin serving on submarines
The Hill ^ | 10/3/2014 | Kristina Wong

Posted on 10/03/2014 9:38:00 AM PDT by markomalley

The Navy plans to begin putting senior enlisted female sailors on submarines in December, officials announced on Friday.

The women will first be integrated onto ballistic missile submarines, which are larger than fast attack submarines, said Navy Cmdr. Renee Squier, head of the Office of Women's Policy for the Chief of Naval Personnel.

The plan is to first integrate female senior enlisted sailors onto submarines and then junior enlisted female sailors, she said. "The goal is to have each unit have 20 percent," Squier said, in order to build a "good ecosystem" for female submariners.

The Navy first opened submarines to female Navy officers in 2012, and so far, more than 40 have served on them. But December will mark the first time enlisted female sailors will be allowed to do so.

The changes will not begin until 90 days after the House and Senate Armed Services committees are formally notified of the plan. That period must include 30 days of continuous session — likely to be in December, Squier said.

So far, Congress has been "very cooperative" on integrating women in the service, she added.

Some have criticized allowing women to serve on submarines. They say sailors serve in close quarters on submarines. They warn that placing women on submarines among dozens of men could lead to incidents of sexual assault or pregnancy and possible negative health effects on women.

Squier, though, said there has been no major pushback from critics or lawmakers to the Navy’s plans.

She said some modifications on submarines are being made to accommodate the enlisted women. Those would likely include creating separate bathrooms or sleeping quarters.

There was a push under the Clinton administration to assign women to submarines, but the 2001 defense policy bill halted those efforts, according to a Congressional Research Service study.

Then-Defense Secretary Robert Gates notified Congress in 2010 of the decision to allow women to begin serving on submarines and in 2011, the Navy began to train women and female officers for submarines.

The change is part of the Obama administration's push to open all currently closed military jobs to women, including in special operations.

The four services are currently reviewing all closed jobs to see how to integrate women and are required to submit to the Defense secretary any reasons why women may not be able to serve in particular jobs in 2016.

So far, the Marine Corps has been studying how to open infantry units to women, among other closed specialties, and the Army is currently accepting volunteers for Ranger School.

Squier said there has not been a study on increased sexual assault on the submarines, but that Navy-wide, prevention awareness among sailors is increased.

"I think that awareness has increased, I think our sailors feel they have leadership support," she said.


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KEYWORDS: navy; pc; silentservice; usmilitary
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To: BenLurkin

Yes. Insanity, planned by the saboteurs in this administration to further destroy a functioning military.


41 posted on 10/03/2014 10:50:12 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: TurboZamboni

The USS Miami was essentially destroyed in an onboard dockside fire by a worker.


42 posted on 10/03/2014 10:53:54 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: markomalley
She said some modifications on submarines are being made to accommodate the enlisted women. Those would likely include creating separate bathrooms or sleeping quarters.

They aren't making 'modifications', they are taking heads and berthing spaces and making them female

43 posted on 10/03/2014 10:54:00 AM PDT by xone
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Women go down on the subs!

Next it will be the openly queer butt slammers, followed by the rue paul change of sex queers, next the ones that can't make up their minds about which sex they are today.

Horny, young studs, locked in a sub for 3-4 months, with young wymen, queers, queens, trannys and other assorted nuts balls, what could possibly go right.

44 posted on 10/03/2014 10:58:55 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: petitfour

~Are they going to do equal work? I don’t think there are that many women in the Navy with the strength to do necessary labor aboard a sub with issues.~

I don’t think there are too much hard work requiring physical strength on a modern sub but if you can understand a sub environment a slutty sociopath narcissist female is the very last person you would like to see there. Unfortunately these are probably a single type of female which might be attracted to a service like that.


45 posted on 10/03/2014 11:00:55 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: T-Bone Texan

It’s the Blueback. I was on it too


46 posted on 10/03/2014 11:05:29 AM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: rjsimmon

#31 Passing her in the narrow hallway would be impossible ....! :)


47 posted on 10/03/2014 11:11:37 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: markomalley
Overt sabotage of our nation's military, is what this is.

It is also disrespectful of MEN.

REAL women know when to get the hell out of the way and leave men to do man's work. There are only females and girls on those submarines -- no women.

48 posted on 10/03/2014 11:14:20 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Mad TV Crimson Tide 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGqwh_0gUvY

“Captain we're taking on water, you're telling me LOOK HOW BIG MY STOMACH IS!”

49 posted on 10/03/2014 11:15:57 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: markomalley

“What could possibly go wrong?!”/s


50 posted on 10/03/2014 11:22:28 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: markomalley

I think the author is wong.


51 posted on 10/03/2014 11:29:14 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: rjsimmon

Prepare to take ‘er down! Dive! Dive!! Dive !!!!


52 posted on 10/03/2014 11:37:18 AM PDT by llevrok (Straight. Since 1950.)
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To: T-Bone Texan; All
her ya go: "Operation Petticoat" trailer

It's two minutes long..but catch the scene at the :58 mark

53 posted on 10/03/2014 11:39:18 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: ken5050

Tony Curtis (boat’s scrounger) - “Out of confusion comes profits...”


54 posted on 10/03/2014 11:45:03 AM PDT by llevrok (Straight. Since 1950.)
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To: markomalley

What happens when they have been underway for a couple of weeks and a female turns up pregnant? They will have to surface to have her removed and a man will have to take over her duties? Of course. None of that matters to Obama.


55 posted on 10/03/2014 11:47:06 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: markomalley

This policy will work well, especially with the Boomers.

I crack me up...

5.56mm


56 posted on 10/03/2014 11:48:15 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: markomalley

What could possibly go wrong? And this brings a new mental image to the idea of shipmates living together in a long tube for months at a time.


57 posted on 10/03/2014 11:49:51 AM PDT by Tudorfly
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Question for all. Don’t they still “hot bunk” on a lot of those boats?


58 posted on 10/03/2014 11:51:58 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: rjsimmon
Just a guess, but I'm thinking this isn't the type of woman likely to volunteer for sub duty.

See "Rosie O'Donnell."

59 posted on 10/03/2014 12:01:22 PM PDT by daler
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To: markomalley
New sexual situations at "20,000 Leagues under the sea."

1954 movie. The title refers to the distance traveled while under the sea and not to a depth, as 20,000 leagues is over eight times the diameter of Earth. The greatest depth mentioned in the book is four leagues. In the book, a league is equivalent to four kilometres.

60 posted on 10/03/2014 12:07:48 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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