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Small California winery to close doors after being fined for using volunteers
Hotair ^ | 10/01/2014 | Mary Katherine Ham

Posted on 10/01/2014 7:38:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 10/01/2014 7:38:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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How dare they take food from the mouth of Pelosi’s billionaire husband!!


2 posted on 10/01/2014 7:41:11 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, if these people can think of a good enough excuse, they don’t believe they have to follow the laws less imaginative people do?


3 posted on 10/01/2014 7:46:40 PM PDT by tdscpa
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m having a disconnect here. There are all sorts of intern programs. There’s publicity encouraging the learning experience, and sometimes the charity of it. Why was this winery singled out for minimum wage “abuse” attention from the government? Why not a bank, or a PAC?


4 posted on 10/01/2014 7:51:15 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SeekAndFind

Must not have donated enough $$ to the Party of Big Government.


5 posted on 10/01/2014 7:52:54 PM PDT by MilesVeritatis (Devote yourself to the truth, no matter where it leads you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Vermont is full of small farms that take on volunteer workers, or people who want to learn about farming, and so on. We don’t have Democrat-sponsored factory farms in Vermont where the taxpayers effectively pay the bills, so those kinds of informal arrangements are about the only way that local food production can survive here.

Want to learn how to grow mushrooms on logs? Then find someone in town who does it. Want to learn how to raise crops without chemicals? Same thing.

Kind of funny, that such a liberal state follows sane policies in many areas. The same with guns. Vermont is chock full of hippies with guns.


6 posted on 10/01/2014 7:57:25 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Monica Lewinsky was a Volunteer. Just saying...


7 posted on 10/01/2014 7:58:03 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Cruz / Gowdy 2016, if you want to save America.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Or a Congressman or Senator?


8 posted on 10/01/2014 7:58:35 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I agree. To be honest, if I had the time free, I would volunteer to work in a winery for several weeks if I could learn a lot about winemaking - and if they allowed nightly sampling.
9 posted on 10/01/2014 7:59:06 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: SeekAndFind

I laugh when people use the term “corporate greed”.

No one and nothing is greedier than the State, which has no end to its appetites.


10 posted on 10/01/2014 8:01:29 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("World History is not full of good governments, or of good voters either "--P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Probably a larger competitor bitching about it. Big business loves regulation. Keeps the little guy from horning-in on the profits.


11 posted on 10/01/2014 8:02:00 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fascists.


12 posted on 10/01/2014 8:03:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: SeekAndFind

Could they have charged their volunteers a nominal fee and called them students?


13 posted on 10/01/2014 8:08:38 PM PDT by GMMC0987
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Probably a larger competitor bitching about it. Big business loves regulation. Keeps the little guy from horning-in on the profits.

Now we're cookin'. I had to get out of the PR business because I had to write outrageously dishonest stuff about free enterprise and "market competition" for our big clients. Big companies hate competition and the free market. The last thing in the world they want is a small upstart competitor who has a better idea -- and price. Invent a better mousetrap and the Big Guys will do everything in their power to shut you down.

14 posted on 10/01/2014 8:11:44 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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Could they have charged their volunteers a nominal fee and called them students?

Charge them a dollar each to attend a hands on wine making class.

15 posted on 10/01/2014 8:13:46 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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good idea

Vintner College


16 posted on 10/01/2014 8:17:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind

“...Winery should have been paying them and paying worker taxes, the state Department of Industrial Relations said.”

No more need be said.


17 posted on 10/01/2014 8:18:24 PM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
The reason is because the winery is not kicking enough upstairs to the Boss and that is tantamount to stealing from the family at least in the Boss's eyes. To not give the Boss his cut or steal from him is a quick way to end up dead.

I know it is a Mafia analogy but the .gov operates very similarly. They are the biggest gang in town except they dress better, usually.

18 posted on 10/01/2014 8:40:17 PM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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State law prohibits for-profit businesses from using volunteers.

Baloney. Many companies use interns.

Someone with some stroke complained. Its an abuse of power, and if you could get to the bottom of it you would find that the complaint came from a friend of someone in power.

If you're smart, you get out of California. Sell and move to anywhere, but get out if you don't want to be harassed and sucked dry under color of law.

19 posted on 10/01/2014 8:45:06 PM PDT by marron
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There are, no doubt, all kinds of certification fees, inspection fees, and record-keeping costs that the state requires for an educational institute.


20 posted on 10/01/2014 9:49:32 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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