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In Defense of Joe Biden: Why is the word 'Oriental' a racist word now?
National Review ^ | 09/29/2014 | Josh Gelernter

Posted on 09/29/2014 9:27:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Last week, Vice President Biden referred to Singapore’s former long-serving prime minister Lee Kuan Yew as the “wisest man in the Orient.” Biden was criticized for saying “Orient,” which is a perfectly innocuous and rather charming word. Unfortunately, it appears that, at some point, someone decided it was racist, and instead of being corrected, he was indulged.

It’s not clear why anyone thinks the words “Orient” and “Oriental” are racist. “Orient,” according to the OED, refers to “that region of the heavens in which the sun and other heavenly bodies rise”; conventionally, it means “east.” Strictly, an Oriental country is a land of the rising sun; idiomatically, it’s a land in East Asia. Presumably, a rising sun is included on certain Oriental flags as a reminder of which adjective the enflagged wish not to be associated with.

In 2002, the state of Washington banned the use in state documents of the adjective “Oriental” to describe people of East Asian extraction. New York followed suit in 2009. Following the New York ban, an “Asian pop columnist” was asked, on NPR, “Why is Oriental such a loaded term? Why do Asian-Americans find it offensive?”

He answered: “Well, you know, I think history really does play a huge role in this. And when you think about it, the term Oriental itself kind of feels freighted with luggage. You know, it’s a term which you can’t think of without having that sort of smell of incense and the sound of a gong kind of in your head.”

So, some people think “Oriental” is racist for the same reason anyone who uses it uses it: It’s poetic, it’s evocative, it has character. People use the word “Orient” for the same reason the Cubs still play at Wrigley Field. It’s the reason Frank Lloyd Wright used the word “Usonian” to replace the bland and imprecise word “American.” “Usonian” never caught on, and now “Oriental” is being choked to death and replaced with the flavorless, meaningless adjective “Asian.” Does “Asian” mean “East Asian,” or does it mean “Russian,” or “East Turkish”? Of course, “Oriental” is pretty broad too — but it’s no broader, culturally, than “Slavic,” is it? Or “Balkan”? Shall we abolish the world “Celtic” and replace it with “European”?

“Orient” is just one member of an unfortunate group: inoffensive words being shunned out of an excess of caution. As you might say someone from Spain is a Spaniard, people have taken to saying someone from China is a “Chinese.” Obviously, that’s incorrect — “Chinese” is an adjective; what you want there is a noun. The noun is “Chinaman,” like “Englishman,” or “Frenchman,” but it has become verboten. “Japanese” is misused in the same way. I’m not sure what the noun is. “Jap” is universally regarded as racist, and I won’t argue that it isn’t — though I’m not sure why it’s more offensive than “Brit” or “Swede” or “Finn.” You wouldn’t say, “He’s a Jewish.”

I am not defending the use of the word “Jap” — it’s not inherently racist, but that’s the convention; it’s too late to save it. I’m not defending offending people for no reason. I am, though, defending the use of the word “Orient.”

It’s not too late for “Orient.” If we tacitly accept the abolition of distinctive words because people mistake their distinctiveness for offensiveness, soon we won’t have any interesting words left. (First they came for “Orient,” and I did not speak out, because I never used “Orient”; then they came for “bagel,” and I did not speak out, because there were no inoffensive nouns or adjectives left.) Anyway, Mr. Biden should be forgiven. Surely, his word choice was occidental.

— Josh Gelernter writes weekly for NRO and is a regular contributor to The Weekly Standard.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: joebiden; oriental; racism
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To: SeekAndFind

Filipinos don’t exactly feel Asian or Oriental...They enjoy their Spanish and American influence...they have their own thing going on.


41 posted on 09/29/2014 10:26:52 AM PDT by chasio649
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To: muir_redwoods
Oriental assumes a basis in the west since Asia is only east from Europe or the Americas

Sorry, but when I think Oriental my mind goes west.

42 posted on 09/29/2014 10:28:15 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Left depends heavily, as one of its tools of control, on manipulation of guilt. To do this they have to keep inventing new thought crimes.

Then they offer themselves as absolution. Align yourself with them and you are redeemed.


43 posted on 09/29/2014 10:29:42 AM PDT by marron
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To: Verginius Rufus

Japan called itself that in reference to China. Viewed from China, the sun did seem to rise over Japan. I think it was a way of countering the Chinese reference to the Japanese as the “Island Dwarves”


44 posted on 09/29/2014 10:31:42 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fictional)
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To: SeekAndFind; Fiji Hill; Hot Tabasco; DesertRhino
The Orient means the East. It is a traditional designation for anything that belongs to the Eastern world or the Middle East (aka Near East) or the Far East, in relation to Europe.

that is my understanding... it can include even parts of North Africa... India to Thailand... all inclusive... and that may be why it is offensive... because it is lumping all those ethnicities altogether...

45 posted on 09/29/2014 10:54:08 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: elcid1970

bada-BING!


46 posted on 09/29/2014 10:54:34 AM PDT by clintonh8r (It's possible to love your country and hate your government. I'm proof of it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Give us a break with this political correctness crap. Now that we use the term white Americans, black Americans, its time to call Asians, yellow Americans and Hispanics, brown Americans. Now we need a color for Arabs.


47 posted on 09/29/2014 11:05:46 AM PDT by kenmcg (b)
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To: SeekAndFind

Somehow I just don’t picture India being in the Orient.


48 posted on 09/29/2014 11:15:34 AM PDT by csmusaret (Will remove Obama-Biden bumperstickers for $10)
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To: SeekAndFind
For "Orient" and "Occident," the German language offers two wonderfully evocative words: "das Morgenland" and "das Abendland," respectively.

Regards,

49 posted on 09/29/2014 11:21:57 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Do Germans call Asians Asiaten? or Orientalisch?


50 posted on 09/29/2014 11:38:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s just call it the “O word.”


51 posted on 09/29/2014 11:40:51 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: SeekAndFind
There's an interesting story behind the use of the term "Orient." Whether it is true or not, I leave to you.

Sometime in the Middle Ages, the Pope declared (because he does these things) that only a certain kind of map could be used to portray the known world. These were called "T in O" maps.

Here's one now:

People like to orient maps so that North is at the top. Notice that "Asia" is right up top on the Papal-approved map?

Coincidence?

52 posted on 09/29/2014 11:48:24 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: alexander_busek

Speaking of Germans, Metternich said that “Asia begins at the Landstrasse” (a street in Vienna leading in the direction of Hungary).


53 posted on 09/29/2014 12:26:23 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: kinsman redeemer
I think the idea was to make the map look like the letters O and T. For orbis terrarum?

Nice clean map but a little lacking in detail. It's hard to make out the "boot" of the Italian peninsula, for example.

54 posted on 09/29/2014 12:30:41 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Hot Tabasco

” he’s likely to think you’re refering to a muslim........”

Or an Indian.

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55 posted on 09/29/2014 12:33:43 PM PDT by Mears
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To: latina4dubya
We need to reclaim the word "Orient" from the politically correct busybodies.

Maybe renaming universities with "East" in their name as "Oriental" would be a start.

Oriental Tennessee State University
Oriental Connecticut State University
Oriental Stroudsburg University of Pennsylvania
Oriental Kentucky University

56 posted on 09/29/2014 12:33:44 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: SeekAndFind

Joel, Joel, Joel.... It’s only racist if a republican says it. Come on, get with the program!


57 posted on 09/29/2014 12:40:58 PM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Liberals are into ‘intellectual fashion’ non-thinking... You don't have to know anything - you learn the “sound of cool”. Buzz words separate the ‘in’ kids from the losers... AND better yet, it allows the ‘cool kids’ to be total idiots. I think it was started in newsrooms...
58 posted on 09/29/2014 1:01:29 PM PDT by GOPJ ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants" - Albert Camus)
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To: SeekAndFind
Do Germans call Asians Asiaten? or Orientalisch?

It seems that they usually refer to them as Asiaten, although I haven't heard that term very often in conversation, broadcasts, etc. "Morgenländer" (orientals) seems to be more of a poetic reference, as is "Abenländer" (occidentals).

59 posted on 09/29/2014 5:46:32 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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