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To: cotton1706
No more voting for RINOs ever, under any circumstances. Period.

In the past I voted for McCain, and Romney nationally, and for Scott Brown in Massachusetts. But I guess it depends on your belief in how far gone this nation is, and what it will take to restore it, assuming that is even possible at this point.

Personally, I now believe that the only way to save America at this point (assuming such a thing is still possible) is to put conservatives in political offices and enact an agenda based on free markets, limited government and the rule of law. As long as we have a Republican party that actively opposes those ends (and we do, obviously), then I believe our only (slim) hope is drastic action.

As long as the Republican Party establishment believes that it can continue to survive by being Democrat-lite, and that it can continue to maintain power while actively fighting against the core principles of liberty, free markets and Constitutional law, it will never make the necessary change of direction.

Only when the Republican party understands that it must change or die can we hope to turn this country around. Our too-long-serving entrenched establishment politicians can still enjoy their comfy lifestyles, their wealth, power and prestige as members of a minority party. So why should they bother to change direction?

Surely a John Boehner (or an Eric Cantor -- had he not been defeated -- or a Mitch McConnell) would be just as happy to be minority leaders if the election cycle didn't go their way. Yes, they would prefer to be majority leaders, but what good would it do them if a conservative Republican Party won the majority and then threw them out of their cushy positions and all those perks, replacing them with real conservatives?

Ask yourself -- which do you think Mitch McConnell would prefer -- a majority Republican party in which he was stripped of his position by a conservative majority, or a minority Republican party in which he could remain Senate minority leader because the majority of Republican senators were RINOs?

You may argue that we have no time to wait for the Republicans to realize that their only choice is to change or die as a viable party. But if we don't have time for that, then what makes you think we have time to wait for the RINOs and the GOP-e to pursue a "moderately marginal" course of action designed only to maintain their personal fiefdoms at the expense of a free America operating under the rule of Constitutional law?

The GOP had majority power in the House and Senate, and occupied the White House, 10 years ago. What did all that power do to move the agenda of liberty forward? Answer: nothing.

A GOP that cannot even sell liberty, limited governments and free markets to the American people is worse than useless. It is a party of tyranny enablers, and I will have none of it.

Unbelievably, today we once again face the stark choice between liberty and death.

Once again, these are the times that try men's souls. Conservatives need to be waging aggressive war against the totalitarian leftist tyrants on all fronts -- in the branches of government at the federal and state level, in academia, in the media, through public demonstrations, and in the voting booth.

Many argue that we must continue to vote for "the most electable conservative," which means "vote for the RINO if no conservative is running." But I respectfully disagree with that choice. I am done enabling.

If we really are to lose the greatest country in the history of the world, then let's at least be fighting for it when it goes down.

And who knows, maybe -- just maybe, if we show sufficient resolve and conviction -- divine Providence will once again provide the support that gave our founders their unlikely victory in 1776, and grant us once again the "new birth of freedom" that Lincoln called for a century later.

If you reward bad behavior, you get more of it. The RINOs have managed to own the Republican party because they know that conservatives have nowhere else to go.

To continue voting for RINOs is to play right into that strategy. The RINOs have become so certain of your vote that they actually believe they can continue to stay in power by declaring outright war on the conservative base.

And when they do that, they are actually declaring war on core American principles -- war on liberty, war on free market economics, and even war on the Constitution.

The RINO Republicans cannot even make an appeal to the traditional American love of those principles, because they have lost the credibility and historical awareness to articulate them, let alone promote them.

Yes, having Harry Reid continue as majority leader is a horrific scenario. But having RINO Republicans win that office is only a marginally better short-term outcome.

And in some ways it is even worse, because as the RINOs “reach across the aisle" to promote marginally modified Democrat policies, they give the Democrats cover from the well-deserved blame for the horrific damage that they have unleashed on our country in the last five years.

America is out of time now. We cannot continue on the current path. And as things continue to deteriorate, who do you think the voters will blame if the Republicans are in power when the 2016 elections come around?

You think Mitch McConnell's senate will repeal Obamacare? You think it will take the right position on immigration? You think a Republican Senate will vote against Obama’s left wing Supreme Court nominations?

America needs clear, passionate and articulate voices to advocate and defend our founding principles, to secure our borders, to preserve our nation, and to take legislative and administrative steps to turn this country around, assuming it still can be turned around.

Majority leader Mitch McConnell will NEVER provide that voice or leadership. He is not the guy to turn things around for our formerly blessed nation.

But in 2016 a newly terrified Republican party will be forced to court instead of alienate the conservative base, and come 2017 will be in a position to put the party and our nation on the proper path. Such a duly chastised party has a real chance of nominating a Ted Cruz, instead of a Mitt Romney who, according to last night's panel on Fox News, is at this point the likely Republican presidential nominee.

So in November, for those whose only choice in the mid-terms is between a RINO and a Democrat, I urge them to stay home on election day, or vote third-party -- anything to prove the RINOs wrong in thinking that they can stay in power by literally declaring war on conservatism.

Think about it.

8 posted on 09/29/2014 8:41:07 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Maceman

Even if the GOP takes control of both houses of Congress this fall it will still not be able to repeal Obamacare. BHO would simply veto any such effort.

The ONLY way to repeal Obamacare is to elect a GOP POTUS, House, and Senate dedicated to repealing it. Period.

We will have to work instead of bitch and complain all of the time.


21 posted on 09/29/2014 8:50:31 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Maceman

That was a great expression of the frustration and concerns I believe many of us have and have reached the same conclusions. They have had more than enough chances. I can no longer do anything to support a GOPe candidate or party. That doesn’t mean I’m helping their opponent unless that opponent is conservative, and it is remotely possible though highly unlikely that could include a Democrat.


26 posted on 09/29/2014 8:56:05 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Maceman
No more voting for RINOs ever, under any circumstances. Period.

So you'd rather have someone like Hillary as president? Just to feed your sense of outrage?

30 posted on 09/29/2014 9:07:27 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (EveryoneÂ’s got a plan Â’til they get punched in the mouth.)
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To: Maceman
A GOP that cannot even sell liberty, limited governments and free markets to the American people is worse than useless. It is a party of tyranny enablers, and I will have none of it.

Excellently stated:'Tyranny enablers'. That is why I call the Ruling Class GOP; Judenrats for the MarxoFascists, especially after McConnell vowed to 'crush' Conservatives 'wherever they are found'.

39 posted on 09/29/2014 9:14:53 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Maceman
No more voting for RINOs ever, under any circumstances. Period.

That has been my rule for several elections now. I did not vote for the Mormon. Not because he was Mormon, but because he is a flaming liberal in my humble opinion. I have long ago decided that I will only vote for those that come close to believing to what I believe and stand for. They don't have to meet everything I believe, but some areas are important and I will not give those up, but in general, I will vote if they are close. I skip those races that I simply cannot hold my nose for and pull the leaver. I no longer hold my nose. If they stink, I jump over them and move on. I will vote for my Senator, Jeff Sessions this election. Our other senator is an EX-liberal dimocrat, and I have not and will not vote for him. Simply will not. Never will. Ain't gonna do it. He is an idiot and I refuse to vote for idiots. GWB was the last person that I voted for holding my nose. I just did not think he was the man for the job, nor any of the others. But I voted for him because of Algore and then the Vietnam Vet Kerry. I hated both of them. I knew nothing about Obama except he was a liberal dimocrat and I don't vote for dimocrats. Ask my cousin, who is our county sheriff. I would not vote for him because he was a dimocrat. I am debating whether to vote for him this election because he has jumped parties and become a republican. Why? Because he was afraid that he would be held accountable for Obama by voters so he jumped. Did he jump because he changed, or was afraid of losing his job? I say the latter, thus am still arguing with myself over whether to vote for him.

42 posted on 09/29/2014 9:18:44 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: Maceman

The brilliance of your plan is quite remarkable. It’s like nothing never seen in politics before. The pathway to victory is by losing. “We won’t win and you can’t make us.” I’m sure your plan is going to put more conservatives in office than we will know what to do with.


44 posted on 09/29/2014 9:21:16 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Maceman

Ted Cruz vs. Hillary Clinton would be the fight for life. That would be an incredible race. It would be nasty though. I would not even begin to guess who would win. I know the liberals are not cheering for Hilary right now but I think they would get right in line. I know the GOPE would not want Ted Cruz but eventually would get behind him. It would be an incredible race.


81 posted on 09/29/2014 11:20:59 AM PDT by napscoordinator (I guarantee every FRiend Misses the lost opportunity of a President Santorum!)
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To: Maceman

And the socialists/communists say thank-you.


111 posted on 10/07/2014 8:22:54 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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