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Why Republicans may not win the Senate after all
blogs.reuters.com ^ | 9/29/14 | Craig Shirley

Posted on 09/29/2014 8:35:23 AM PDT by cotton1706

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To: centurion316
The pathway to victory is by losing. “We won’t win and you can’t make us.” I’m sure your plan is going to put more conservatives in office than we will know what to do with.

It's called losing the battle but winning the war.

Consider...

The bell will toll for 72 year old McConnell, 80 year old Hatch, 78 year old McCain, 81 year old Grassley, 78 year old Roberts, 79 year old Imhofe, 74 year old Alexander, 70 year old Enzi.

I'm not worried about "winning" in the short term, because it won't be long before these GOPe "leaders" pass on.

The trouble is getting the elders to step aside now so they can be seen as king-makers, grooming the next generation, instead of bitter-clingers holding onto their seats until they die and leaving the next generation to scramble against the Democrats for the pieces left behind.

We have to purge them NOW and put the next generation in place.

-PJ

61 posted on 09/29/2014 10:02:50 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: cotton1706
And don't call me Shirley.

-PJ

62 posted on 09/29/2014 10:04:14 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: cotton1706

More leftist crap to drive a wedge. She should just admit what she is doing.


63 posted on 09/29/2014 10:05:15 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yep, you are right.


64 posted on 09/29/2014 10:06:44 AM PDT by dforest
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To: cotton1706
Why Republicans may not win the Senate after all

I think it's at the point where even Karl Rove couldn't screw it up. I think the GOP will take the Senate...for all the good it'll do us.

65 posted on 09/29/2014 10:08:47 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: INVAR; Ann Archy
Apparently there's a lot of battered wife syndrome out there. I'm cured of that disease now. GOP, DNC - not a penny's difference between 'em. Let them go the way of the Whigs.

That's exactly right - But it needs to go further - Rather than the passive-aggressive act of not voting for a RINO, which is what is left for us this season... NEXT time a Conservative is driven out of the primary, he needs to convert to independent and keep going. THEN we all will have someone to vote *FOR*... Someone to support. And Conservatives can, single-handed, put such a one as that right into office.

The Republicans then have a choice - either bear far right to compete, or remain moderate and really go the way of the Whigs.

There should ALWAYS be a conservative candidate in the field. ALWAYS.

66 posted on 09/29/2014 10:36:14 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: DiogenesLamp; cripplecreek
This is no longer about politics, but about Principle.

Lest Y'all might forget, to a Conservative, it is, and has ever been, about principle.

67 posted on 09/29/2014 10:39:22 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Comparing the tactics of single issue advocacy groups to behaviors needed to prevail in party politics does not strike me as very useful. I certainly agree with the first sentence of your last paragraph and my opinion is that is exactly what we are doing, albeit primarily at the local level because of the structure of the Senate, the power of incumbency, and the influence of highly populated urban centers.

Voting for a Democrat is never acceptable in my view.


68 posted on 09/29/2014 10:47:20 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

And an outside chance in:

1) MN
2) MI
3) OR

Michigan is opne of those states where I thought we had a decent chance of winning. Terri Land, the GOP nominee, isn’t getting an forward movement there. I’m not sure why either.

Minnesota (my home state) is well...it’s Minnesota. Al Franken still has a large number of voters who have an unfavorable impression of him. Franken is doing his utmost to duck any kind of debate with the GOP nominee. However, the GOP nominee is, in my estimation, an empty suit.

Unfortunately, I see Franken winning about 54-57% of the vote.


69 posted on 09/29/2014 10:47:41 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: INVAR

The behavior of establishment Republican politicians is abhorrent, but doesn’t come close to matching the behavior of any Democrat politician.


70 posted on 09/29/2014 10:50:52 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: roamer_1

To a Party Hack, (as I have been told right here at FR) Principles are childish and need to be left at home when we go to vote.

For them it’s about ‘winning’, which means liberty must lose and government must grow (as evidenced when the GOP controlled the entire enchilada).

For the GOP today - ‘winning’ is defined as ‘destroying the Conservative bullies in the Tea Party’ while handing the Democrats their entire agenda and pretending to be an ‘opposition’ party.

To liberal Party Hacks in the GOP, principles are like a crucifix held up to Dracula.


71 posted on 09/29/2014 10:52:24 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Political Junkie Too
I'm not worried about "winning" in the short term

You should be. The dinosaurs will be gone, some sooner rather than later, but it makes no sense to purge and replace them with Democrats. No sense at all.

72 posted on 09/29/2014 10:53:33 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: cotton1706

Guess it’s time to remind everyone that Reuters is a fanatical, anti-Israeli propaganda outlet that engages in big lies and disinformation. Here’s one of dozens of examples:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1680949/posts


73 posted on 09/29/2014 10:54:55 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: MplsSteve

Notice I said “outside” chance. In presidential elections, all three states are solid blue. But midterm elections are not presidential elections. The electorate in midterm elections tends to be older, whiter, more conservative, more disciplined, therefore more Republican than is generally the case in presidential election.

MN frequently elects GOP US Senators-—despite the fact that it has not voted for a GOP presidential candidate since 1972. And Al Franken is such a buffoon, and the way he originally stole the senate seat I think this one COULD prove to be an upset.

Ditto with MI. Solidly blue in presidential election years, but often votes much more conservatively in midterm elections. Who would have EVER thought MI would end up becoming a right to work state?

In OR, the incumbent has proven to be surprisingly weak and Obamacare is not very popular. The state is historically Republican, but has not voted for a Republican presidential candidate since 1984. It could flip back some day.


74 posted on 09/29/2014 11:00:14 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: centurion316
The behavior of establishment Republican politicians is abhorrent, but doesn’t come close to matching the behavior of any Democrat politician.

I can agree with that.

The Democrats have not publicly vowed to 'crush Conservatives wherever we find them';"punch them in the nose"; and declare war on an ideology that serves as their base.

I don't find Democrats compromising with a Republican agenda while telling their base they oppose it.

See, traitors are much worse than an existing enemy, because they sneak up behind you and slit your throat while you sleep in their camp, or help the enemy destroy their own via sabotage and abandonment.

You do not see Democrats destroying their own base like you see the GOP leadership destroying theirs.

So in actuality, the GOP leadership and party is WORSE than any Democrat politician.

75 posted on 09/29/2014 11:01:52 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

What some people say is simply quite amazing. Thanks.


76 posted on 09/29/2014 11:04:18 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: INVAR
To a Party Hack, (as I have been told right here at FR) Principles are childish and need to be left at home when we go to vote.

What these will never understand is that Conservatism, founded in principle, is a way of life, not a political position. The unmovable principles of Conservatism are what causes Conservatives to band together and what causes them to vote. Take away the principles, and there is a clarion call no longer, and all the hand-wringing, throwing of dust in the air, and pointing at Sasquatch will make no difference at all.

The other thing they forget is that when one stands up who can, with utter conviction, speak to Conservatives in their language, there is not a more unstoppable force in all the country. If you want a political Chick-Fil-A moment of monumental proportion, send candidates who have God in their heart and Reagan in their conscience... What will happen next is as immense as it is predictable.

77 posted on 09/29/2014 11:08:32 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Of course, that would take both guts and backbone, which are sorely lacking in the present-day GOP, with a few exceptions.

Exactly, but Boehner and McConnell sure are brave when it comes to stabbing conservatives in the back. Conservatives threaten to reduce the spoils by cutting the budget and reducing the size of government. The Democrats pose no such threat. Boehner and McConnell are drooling over the money and power they expect to win, quite satisfied it will be there since they have beaten back the conservative threat. There is no way I'm going to help those bastards bury me!

78 posted on 09/29/2014 11:10:38 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: centurion316
The only sense is to purge those in solidly red states, and then reclaim the seat in the next cycle.

-PJ

79 posted on 09/29/2014 11:15:41 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: centurion316
Voting for a Democrat is never acceptable in my view.

My argument is that they should have never pushed us to this point. Now that they have sown the wind, they must reap the whirlwind.

80 posted on 09/29/2014 11:15:47 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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