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Islamic State fight could breathe new life into the A-10
Stars and Stripes ^ | September 26, 2014 | Jennifer H. Svan

Posted on 09/27/2014 12:18:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

An A-10 Thunderbolt II banks after a strafing run on Aug. 21, 2014, during the Red Flag-Alaska 14-3 exercise at the Yukon Training Area, Alaska.

Months after staving off a trip to the boneyard, the embattled A-10 Thunderbolt II is headed to the Middle East where it could be used to fight Islamic militants in Iraq and Syria.

An Indiana Air National Guard unit that flies the Cold War-era gunships, known as Warthogs, is planning to deploy about 300 airmen and an unknown number of its aircraft to the U.S. Central Command region early next month, says a Sept. 17 news release from the unit.

The 122nd Fighter Wing, located at Fort Wayne Air National Guard Base, Ind., has 21 aircraft, though it’s uncertain how many will be deploying, a spokesman said Thursday.

The Air National Guard release doesn’t mention where the group is headed or for what purpose.

The Air Force wants to retire the A-10, an attack aircraft intended for close air support, to pay for its new — and costly — multipurpose F-35 stealth fighters. Retiring the decades-old fleet of about 300 A-10s would potentially save about $4.2 billion over five years, Air Force leaders have said.

But Congress this summer spared the plane from defense cuts. And now some experts say they wouldn’t be surprised to see the almost-mothballed A-10 pulled into the air war in Iraq and Syria, a possibility that could further heat the debate on the plane’s future.

Designed to shoot Soviet tanks rolling across the open fields of Europe, the A-10 has been the primary aircraft for close air support of ground forces since the mid-1970s. Experts say that capability is well-suited to taking out ground targets in Iraq and Syria.

“When you deploy the A-10, they only have one purpose,” said Dakota Wood, the senior research fellow for defense programs at the Heritage Foundation, and that is “to kill things on the ground. If the expectation is to defeat ISIS in Iraq and help the Iraqis push them out or do anything in Syria, especially in the border area between Syria and Iraq, you will need firepower well-suited” to targeting armored vehicles and enemy fighters on the ground.

The A-10 flies “low and slow,” a capability that reduces collateral damage but also makes it more vulnerable to small-arms fire and portable anti-aircraft missiles, experts say.

The threat in Iraq, where Islamic State militants have shoulder-launched, man-portable air defense systems, is manageable, said Gareth Jennings, aviation desk editor for IHS Jane’s Defence Weekly.

Syria could pose more of a challenge for the A-10, Jennings said. It “would not only be going up against ISIS and other military groups, but you do have the Syrian government to contend with.”

The Syrian government, which has more sophisticated air defense systems, has not interfered with early strikes in the country “but there’s no guarantee that will continue,” Jennings said. “ ‘My enemy’s enemy is my friend’ only goes so far.”

Those risks are worth managing, Jennings thinks, because of the distinct psychological advantage the A-10 and its fearsome 30 mm Gatling gun brings to a fight.

“No other aircraft in the world has the reputation of the A-10 in terms of instilling fear into the enemy” he said. “It can stay over a target; it doesn’t come in and drop its bombs and have to leave. It stays over the battlefield, picking off targets at will.”

Wood thinks it is probable the Air National Guard A-10s are deploying “because of basing options.”

To be able to generate more sorties, it’s better to fly from airfields that are closer to the fight, he said.

The A-10 is more adept than other fighters at launching from short, austere airfields, so it could be the aircraft with that versatility gives the U.S. military more options for sortie generation, he said.

“When you look at a map,” he said, the A-10s could possibly deploy “to Iraq, maybe Saudi Arabia, but there’s a strong option for Jordan.”

The aircraft could instead deploy to Afghanistan, if the Pentagon wants to shift types of airpower from Afghanistan to Iraq and replace that with the A-10, Wood said, but “that seems kind of a cumbersome, expensive dance.”

Deployment of the A-10s in Iraq and Syria would certainly extend the debate as to the aircraft’s future, Wood said.

It will “be a win for the A-10 communities and advocates … one more argument in favor of it.”

Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H., is among lawmakers who say now is not the time to get rid of the A-10, particularly in light of the current Islamic State threat.

Defeating the Islamic State “will require effective close air support — not just dropping bombs from high altitude on isolated targets — and there is no better [close-air-support] aircraft than the A-10,” Ayotte said in a statement to Stars and Stripes.

But Wood said the argument still comes down to money.

“Even if you said you wanted to keep the A-10, where does the Air Force come up with the money to retain the A-10 and all that comes with it … and still get its full complement of F-35s?”

Though Air Force brass are intent on retiring the plane, “no one is saying because it’s no good,” Jennings said. “They’re saying in this day and age … you can’t afford to have aircraft that are only good at one thing.”

He said this isn’t the first time the A-10 has been on the chopping block only to see a decision reversed in the face of a new conflict.

“What makes it different (now) is the U.S. Air Force doesn’t have the money to support all these different types of aircraft. Unless that changes, I’m afraid the writing is on the wall for the A-10, regardless of how it functions in Iraq, Syria and on.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Syria; US: Indiana; US: New Hampshire; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: a10; afghanistan; airforce; iraq; isil; isis; jordan; military; newhampshire; saudiarabia; syria; waronterror
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Warthog in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCnjWmtfvFo


21 posted on 09/27/2014 1:07:15 PM PDT by JPG ("So sue me". OK, we will.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That stuff gives me a Hog-on.


22 posted on 09/27/2014 1:12:01 PM PDT by clbiel (Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being decapitated)
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To: MattinNJ

Great plane...!


23 posted on 09/27/2014 1:15:13 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Designed to shoot Soviet tanks rolling across the open fields of Europe,

Could still happen.

24 posted on 09/27/2014 1:15:54 PM PDT by McGruff (we're leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq - Barack Obama)
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To: elcid1970

Napalm means “marshmallow time”.


25 posted on 09/27/2014 1:17:22 PM PDT by Darksheare (People who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: BwanaNdege

The unverfiable doesn’t want anything killing his bros cuz they have a Country to conquer. The fact that he knows our secrets kind of dooms us. However I’m still for doing to them what the A-10 does best.


26 posted on 09/27/2014 1:22:44 PM PDT by mcshot (Kenya now says 0 or Soebarkah born in U.S..)
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To: drunknsage

In the armor museum at Fort Irwin California, the National Training Center, are several former Iraqi/Warsaw Pact tanks that had been lit up by the Warthog.

I could almost put my hand through the holes they left in the top of the turret and we are talking about three inches of steel cut through like hot knife through butter.


27 posted on 09/27/2014 1:32:03 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The same thing which makes the A-10 so effective, low and slow, also makes it vulnerable.

It has gotten to where it is too vulnerable.


28 posted on 09/27/2014 1:43:17 PM PDT by yarddog (G)
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To: clbiel

LOL!!! I’ll bet the pilots get the same when they roll in on some terrorist trucks and get to do a little muzzy ‘plinkin’ with that gun!! BBBBBZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!


29 posted on 09/27/2014 1:56:38 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and It's a GREAT life!)
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To: Dedbone

If not, I’m sure the Marines can find a place for them. They’ll gladly pay $1 per aircraft.


30 posted on 09/27/2014 2:02:31 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: SeeSharp
No, it is the Air Force that didn't want the planes to begin with because it is not an Air Force plane. It is an Army plane best flown by Army pilots for ground support. The problem lies when you give the Air Force the authority to purchase all aircraft (just as it is when you let the Navy purchase all Marine Corps equipment).

Budget cuts for the A-10 did not occur until four years AFTER Dick Cheney left office. So to blame Dick Cheney for ordering them destroyed is simply not valid.
31 posted on 09/27/2014 2:24:44 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: NTHockey

That would be $1 the Navy would not be willing to spend.


32 posted on 09/27/2014 2:25:43 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
D@mn right, one of the most awesome weapons of War ever created! enemies cringe in FEAR, just with the chance that an A-10 will be on the battlefield.
33 posted on 09/27/2014 2:36:48 PM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Exactly - fighting Mid-East dictators and terrorists with a super-expensive F-35 is like chopping fire-wood with a samurai sword.


34 posted on 09/27/2014 2:56:55 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
The Air Force wants to retire the A-10, an attack aircraft intended for close air support, to pay for its new — and costly — multipurpose F-35 stealth fighters... Designed to shoot Soviet tanks rolling across the open fields of Europe, the A-10 has been the primary aircraft for close air support of ground forces since the mid-1970s. Experts say that capability is well-suited to taking out ground targets in Iraq and Syria.

35 posted on 09/27/2014 3:19:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Retiring the decades-old fleet of about 300 A-10s would potentially save about $4.2 billion over five years, Air Force leaders have said". ... “Even if you said you wanted to keep the A-10, where does the Air Force come up with the money to retain the A-10 and all that comes with it … and still get its full complement of F-35s?”

So we need $850 million per year to maintain the existing fleet of ships for five years. Obola has been running annual deficits of $1,000,000 PER YEAR for years and years. And they can't find that small amount of money to fulfill the most basic requirement of government -- national defense?

Obola and his democrat henchmen (and many Republicans in cahoots) make me sick. This is an almost trivial amount of money at the national level to maintain the most effective close support gunship ever built. It is perfectly designed for wiping out our muslim enemies in the ME.

36 posted on 09/27/2014 3:22:54 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The AF hates the A10. They have been trying to get rid of it since before Gulf I. They don’t want anything that’s not MACH capable.


37 posted on 09/27/2014 3:27:16 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (Half measures do not advance anything; they are only stakes in lost ground. Kill the RINOs.)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
And it doesn't need a 6 mile turn radius at full power. It's more like a gigantic over-thrusted crop duster with a Gatling gun and missiles.
38 posted on 09/27/2014 3:33:14 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: JPG
Thanks. Another excellent vid: The A-10 Thunderbolt II & GAU-8 Avenger - A Deadly Duo. All about the 127th Wing, Michigan Air National Guard.
39 posted on 09/27/2014 3:35:54 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Whoops, left out a critical "Million"...

Obola has been running annual deficits of $1,000,000 MILLION PER YEAR for years and years.

40 posted on 09/27/2014 3:39:24 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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