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Beavercreek Walmart surveillance tape shows shooting, 9-1-1 call (video)
Cleveland.com ^ | Sep 24, 2014 | Jeremy Pelzer

Posted on 09/24/2014 8:17:16 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy

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61 posted on 09/24/2014 9:27:31 PM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: Jarhead9297

What do you mean, what conclusion?


62 posted on 09/24/2014 9:29:12 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Bah!!!! Wrong person....apologies!!!


63 posted on 09/24/2014 9:30:26 PM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Man, I can almost feel this Ronald Ritchie thinking he’s just a Big Shot, reporting some evil man who’s thoughtlessly talking with his hands while talking on a cell phone. Yes, he had an (air)rifle. He died for that horrible crime.
I am totally against the black thug culture, but for God’s sake, the man was dumb, not criminal. How does that moron Ronald Ritchie even sleep at night, after lying like that, getting a man KILLED over his lies????????


64 posted on 09/24/2014 9:30:59 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: antidisestablishment

He was swinging a “toy” gun around. But the real issue IMO was the 911 caller claimed it was a rifle and he was loading it and pointing it at children.
I don’t get where people think the Police are at fault here. You put yourselves in their shoes; they are going into a store where they are told a guy is loading a rifle and pointing at kids. For all they know it is a crazy guy with a fully loaded assault rife with kids all over the place. You don’t get a second chance if this crazy guy starts spraying bullets down an aisle with kids. I put more of the blame on the 911 caller.


65 posted on 09/24/2014 9:31:02 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: Jarhead9297

sure hope me or family never cross your path if you are that damn trigger happy to drop a guy who is standing in a corner with nobody around posing no threat that i seen...now if he points said weapon thats different...maybe weapon drawn but not take the dudes life without knowing a damn thing about the situation

Mike


66 posted on 09/24/2014 9:31:58 PM PDT by MikeinMotley
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To: Tired of Taxes

Look at post 57 that I was posting at the same time as your post, I was picking up something about the caller also, without knowing the speculation that you just posted.


67 posted on 09/24/2014 9:32:50 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: LambSlave

He was feeling all like a BIG IMPORTANT man!!!!! In the middle of the action!


68 posted on 09/24/2014 9:33:16 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: Tired of Taxes

The story I just read said the caller recanted about Crawford pointing the gun at anyone. The caller may not have had a good vantage point either. He was following Crawford, warning shoppers to stay away, and trying not to be seen. I agree we need to ask questions.


69 posted on 09/24/2014 9:34:22 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy; ohioman

Of course he didn’t, how could he have made such a stupid comment if he had??

note to self: ohioman must be as stupid as this Ronald Ritchie person. Troll?


70 posted on 09/24/2014 9:34:24 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: caww

Ronald, is that you??


71 posted on 09/24/2014 9:35:24 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: Jonty30

He was mindlessly swinging it around while obviously talking on a cell phone, a white one. Stupid, but not a death penalty offense.


72 posted on 09/24/2014 9:36:58 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: martinidon

This right here I can agree with...the first sensible comment in this thread and the Grand Jury came to the same conclusion regarding the cops. Arm chair after the fact QB immediate cop haters would have you believe that when placed in this same situation they’d have addressed this in a calm manner. Tragedy yes...guy was asking to be shot? Hell yes...grand jury indictment for the 911 caller? I pray it happens


73 posted on 09/24/2014 9:38:08 PM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: maine-iac7
you don't walk around with an unholstered gun or a rifle in a crowded store - duh... and you don't wave a gun around in a crowded store -

Which the dead guy WASN'T doing...

Hey - maybe you should watch the video. Or are you another "proudly posting without reading or viewing" FReeper? LOL! :)

74 posted on 09/24/2014 9:39:02 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: antidisestablishment

a cop killed a guy for texting????

I see two here who would apparently advocate the same thing.


75 posted on 09/24/2014 9:39:59 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: ohioman
I wouldn't ever want to prosecute these officers because when you see someone behaving oddly or reported to behaving oddly, with a gun, you don't take chances...

HOWEVER, every police dept in this nation has to be retrained to NOT shoot first....that citizens have rights, and the cops re not judge and jury and electricutioneer.

76 posted on 09/24/2014 9:41:13 PM PDT by cherry
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To: MikeinMotley

If I see someone in a store pointing a weapon (if he truly did) at children yes I drop him. Spent 5 years in the Corps..never been trigger happy and never had to draw...I pray to God I never have to....if someone is so stupid to perform such an action they have no respect for the life of others nor value their own.


77 posted on 09/24/2014 9:41:42 PM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: MaxMax

So this guy is stupidly, but not criminally, talking on a cell phone and talking with his hands, swinging a product sold on another aisle right there in WM and you surmise that he’s looking to sue Walmart.

laughing. wow, just wow. And you think HE is a nut job???!!!


78 posted on 09/24/2014 9:42:26 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: Shimmer1

Do you think for one second if that were the case a Grand Jury would not ha e indicted them? Let’s get real for a moment shall we?


79 posted on 09/24/2014 9:43:11 PM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: ansel12

I just read more about the woman who collapsed and died as a result:

Nurse. Age 37. Four children. Engaged to be married. She was running from the store with her 9-year-old when she collapsed. Just tragic.

Two people - both gone. Although, maybe the police should’ve assessed the situation better, no matter what the 911 caller claimed.


80 posted on 09/24/2014 9:44:44 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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