Apple pulls iOS update after widespread reports of disabled phones

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[Swordmaker]

That doesn't sound like text to me... I had a problem logging into Linux the other day and was able to ctrl-alt-F1 into the terminal - without being logged in - and log in from there. I may be wrong, but I'm aware of no analog for the Macintosh.

You are right, you ARE wrong. ;^)

It isn't just an analog, Linux is the "clean room" copy of UNIX™, not the other way around.

What do you think your "text" is? It is the Linux analog of a UNIX™ Terminal. Linux is a UNIX™ work alike. OSX is UNIX™ and in fact is one of only five certified IEEE POSIX compliant Trademarked UNIX™ operating systems licensed by the The Open Group, the organization that maintains the standards of UNIX™. Apple OSX is the largest selling UNIX™ in the world.

Apple OSX, IBM's AIX, HP-UX, Silicon Graphic's IRIX, Sun's Solaris are the five UNIX™ operating systems still in production. Both Apple and IBM had previous versions for their earlier processors.

What are you looking for is a fully text interface and that what TERMINAL is. When using Terminal, you are talking with the underlying operating system but you have limited access as you are not logged in as a SUPER USER. For that you need SUPER USER access.

If you want to boot into UNIX™, you can. It is not advisable. However, if you want to, simply restart while holding command (Apple)- S. You'll boot to a text screen, with a prompt. You can type reboot, and press enter to reboot normally. You most likely still won't have the right user permissions for access unless you know how to set them using SUDO. You can do that using TERMINAL as well.

Apple Mac OSX Single User Mode. . . UNIX ROOT

The Toolbox is still there. Quickdraw is still there only a lot more powerful. You just THINK it is a straight jacket because you don't know how to use it. A fine tool keeps out of your way when you use it. You don't have to keep working ON it instead of with it.

That is why intelligent people choose Macs and not Windows computers. My home Mac has Windows (three versions), Linux (two versions), iOS, and several other operating systems running on it. . . so that I can better support my clients. All of them run in sandboxes under OSX. . . sometimes simultaneously. And of course I have access to the full power of UNIX when I need it (seldom).

At my office, we just run OSX. . . and just one instance of Windows 7 (which we do not allow anywhere near the internet) in a sandboxed window on one of our iMacs to run an specialized application that is not available on the Mac.

OSX on a seven year old MacPro runs our 3D Panelipse X-RAY Tomography system. 3D Tomography is no slouch in computational demands. The rest of our radiographic needs are handled by four MacBook Airs feeding into our Mac Mini Server which handles our database, while other data is handled by multiple iMacs also tied into the same Mac mini server. The Mac mini is connected to a RAID backup system.

[Lexinom]

I use root access every day on live production systems to push changes live for real clients. I also know the difference between bitmaps and bitplanes, how character-mapped displays work, and the basis for early displays' nonlinear mappings. I've engineered complex real-time (and even hard-time) systems in 65816 assembly, Intel assembly, C, C++, Java, PHP, Javascript, and have read hundreds of RFCs over the course of my career as per the demands of my work.

I appreciate your enthusiasm for the Mac. Great pedigree, great product... and I have no intention of ever buying or using one given the choice. Apple made their choice, I've made mine, and I'm quite happy with the hardware and OSes available to the humble masses of us who are less-than elite, who are stupider than you, aka real people.

[Lexinom]

Agree with you 100% on Windows. It's the McOS of operating systems, bogged down with needless layers wasting resources to accommodate user easy (ergo Plug-n-Play). You lose something like 30% of your total processing potential off-the-bat. It just feels slow and bloated compared to Linux.

The Mac is like a fine steak dinner: Hats off, but not for me... ever... for historical reasons. People that like to "click" instead of issuing keystrokes tend to prefer Macs. Personally, I hate the mouse and try to minimize use thereof.

Linux - the "clean room Unix" developed originally by St. Linus - is more like a stack of ingredients prearranged according to taste (Ubuntu, Fedora, Red Hat, etc.) I like Linux the best, with all its quirks, and never feel limited by it. It's for the huddled, humble masses, the non-elites, those who just want to "get 'er done" instead of bragging about pedigree... The sky is the limit with Linux...

Anyone with VirtualBox can run multiple OSes regardless of the host OS.

And of course we're arguing about toys here; the real computers that provide the backbone for our banking, healthcare, and airline reservations are something entirely different.

[cynwoody]

Just type ⌘-Space and the command you want to run. The Dock is pretty, but there is no reason to use it to start apps. It's best left hidden (⌘⌥-D) over on the right edge of your external monitor.

E.g., "⌘-Space Terminal Enter" should get you to a Unix command line.

My personal computer is a Mac. But most of the machines I interact with are running Linux. So, I tend to run a couple or three Terminal windows with lots of tabs per window, each running SSH into some box on the internet.

[Swordmaker]

And of course we're arguing about toys here; the real computers that provide the backbone for our banking, healthcare, and airline reservations are something entirely different.

True... but these "toys" interface with them. And I prefer not to use a Windows POS to do it. It is no longer fun to have to use that.

[Swordmaker]

E.g., "⌘-Space Terminal Enter" should get you to a Unix command line.

Damn, I am getting old. Forgot that simple way. . . and I've used it often.

[Mark17]

I am about the least computer savy person I know. You might remember I asked for your help to install IOS 8 on my IPhone 5. I have looked at many posts here. I have not had any problems with it. I am using it right now, in fact. Am I just lucky?

Even as unsavy and unlearned as I am, even I would have scoffed at anything that told me I could charge my cell in a microwave or that it is water proof. What lunacy.

[vox_freedom]

Thanks for this info, swordmaker. Appreciate it. The new 6+ arrives in a month.

[freekitty]

Do you think the government is disabling the phones?

[Lexinom]

I know. I wrote the interface software (terminal emulators) for eight years.

[ctdonath2]

In a casual conversation like this, all (most?) presume the reality of edge cases without having to enumerate thorough verbiage noting them.

Apple is not a god. Mistakes happen.
And if you’re having to point at iOS 8.0.1’s “didn’t just work”, you’re having to go to pedantic extremes overlooking the fact it was limited to a product that had been out for mere days, and the mistake was pulled within a very few hours (minutes?) of its release. Sure it’s not eschatological perfection, but it’s about as close thereto as a human-run quarter-trillion-dollar business can be.

[If you insist, I’ll remind y’all of two words: “Android fragmentation”.]

[tophat9000]

You seem to missing the point...I can run corporate email my primary phone if I like..that not the issue....

ITs requirement is admin rights on ANY device that has corporate email on it so then can control password policy or remote wipe or lock out if lost ..but it can be a vm

Your telling me an Iphone can not get lost and you might have set a too simple to no security on your phone exposing sensitive corporate documents to people that should not be seen them?..

We are a network security company and white hat hacking Our IT not going to allow any corporate documents or email on a device they do not admin

With the capability of creating a virtual machine smart-phone on my primary smart-phone I can grant IT admin rights to the vm smart-phone and run corporate email with out granting them right to my primary phone....

IT is not even aware or even cares that they are admin of just a vm on my primary phone..that can lock out or wipe everything in that vm image at will while never touching my personal phone..

That the beauty of it.. im still in overall control. .

My phone is the physical hardware server that i admin.

There just a vm image on my phone that i can access to do my corporate business while satisfied any admin rights IT wants.

[Grampa Dave]

Besides just paying their bill and not looking at it, they probably are as dumb as rock when it comes to basic math.

Twice, Comcast (every two years) has tried to basically double our monthly costs/price.

Twice, I walked into their local office and said I will not pay more for Cable/internet/phones than my PG&E bill. I have had copies of the Dish offers, phone offers and internet offers.

Twice, they have cut my bill back to the original with a minimal price increase the second time.

You are obvious good at math and will figure out what is best for your needs. Good job of not rolling over.

The US needs more consumers like you and me. We force them to stop and make a better offer.

[Enlightened1]

LOL! Thanks for the compliment.

To me examining, observing and comparing prices on a product is as basic as tying your shoes. I don’t view it as work. To me it’s like breathing.

Perhaps too many of us have become so decadent and lethargic that the basics in life seem like work?

[Grampa Dave]

“To me examining, observing and comparing prices on a product is as basic as tying your shoes. I don’t view it as work. To me it’s like breathing.

Perhaps too many of us have become so decadent and lethargic that the basics in life seem like work?”

Then, they want Uncle Gravy train to take care of them, so they don’t have use their little gray cells to do the basics like you and I do.

[Swordmaker]

I know. I wrote the interface software (terminal emulators) for eight years.

Nah, Apple did one of its very rare screw-ups, which they do have from time to time. . . but they were on top of it right away. I just installed iOS 8.0.2 tonight and everything works just fine.

[Swordmaker]

Top, my question is: Why is there anything corporate ON your phone in the first place to steal? You should be able to access your corporate documents FROM your phone for your use, but they should never be ON your phone once you’ve read them, taken action on them , etc.. . . and your access should be fingerprint access controlled, as it can be on the iPhone 5s and above. If the iPhone gets taken, stolen, or lost, you can simply brick it, erase it, and/or locate it for recovery, but in any case, there is nothing on the device capable of compromising your company’s important data, because it is secure, safe and sound, on the company’s servers back at the office. Anything on the iPhone, absent your finger to unlock it, is 128 bit encrypted. . . even if it had anything besides your personal stuff.

[Swordmaker]

Perhaps too many of us have become so decadent and lethargic that the basics in life seem like work?”

They are work. . . but too many people have been conditioned to avoid work. . . or anything that even resembles it.

[Grampa Dave]

“Perhaps too many of us have become so decadent and lethargic that the basics in life seem like work?”

‘They are work. . . but too many people have been conditioned to avoid work. . . or anything that even resembles it.’

Swordmaker, you have nailed it.

My wife and relatives on both sides are amazed at the people our age (mid 70’) down to our off spring’s age of 40 something, and the younger teen age generation and of course the new failure to launch generation. They work at avoiding work that will benefit them.

One of our younger relatives, in his early teens, who doesn’t want a smart phone, says so many of his peers don’t want to memorize anything. They just ‘Google’ what they want to know.
Heaven for bid that they read a book or essay, talk to their parents/relatives and friends to find answers. He uses Kindle on his mother’s home computer to look up things. His sister uses her I Pad for references and uses Kindle on her I Pad to read for fun and to learn. Her I Pad is required at the private school she attends, and it gets used all the time at school and at home.

[Lexinom]

A helicopter was flying around above Seattle when an electrical malfunction disabled all of the aircraft's electronic navigation and communications equipment. Due to the clouds and haze, the pilot could not determine the helicopter's position and course to fly to the airport. The pilot saw a tall building, flew toward it, circled, drew a handwritten sign, and held it in the helicopter's window. The pilot's sign said "WHERE AM I?" in large letters. People in the tall building quickly responded to the aircraft, drew a large sign, and held it in a building window. Their sign read "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER." The pilot smiled, waved, looked at his map, determined the course to steer to SEATAC airport, and landed safely. After they were on the ground, the co-pilot asked the pilot how the "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER" sign helped determine their position. The pilot responded "I knew that had to be the Microsoft building because they gave me a technically correct, but completely useless answer." Cheers!