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Gold crashes and is now tarnished for good
Market Watch ^ | 22 September 2014 | Jeff Reeves

Posted on 09/22/2014 7:50:29 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Gold shined brightly at the beginning of 2014, with bullion prices jumping by about 13% from New Year’s Day until mid-March. But since spring, and particularly since July, gold prices have been on the decline. Last week, the precious metal settled near lows not seen since Christmas 2013. So should investors consider this sell-off as an opportunity to buy precious metals on the cheap? Or is gold really tarnished for some time to come? Sadly for gold bugs, it’s the latter.

There’s always a big argument for gold as the only alternative amid overpriced stocks, a weak U.S. recovery and a fragile dollar that will collapse at any time. If you want to make those arguments in the face of the facts, feel free to scroll down to the comments section and make fun of my receding hairline. But for those interested in reality, it’s important to note how much those arguments have missed the mark over the past few years and how they ignore recent data to the contrary. The stock market, U.S. economy and the dollar are all doing quite well. Judging by recent data, all three look like they will improve.

Here’s why I wouldn’t expect gold to rebound anytime soon, and why the outlook for this precious metal is quite tarnished:

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crash; gold; goldbugs; goldprices; stocks
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Markets are complex beasts. This story sounds like someone is searching its entrails for omens.


2 posted on 09/22/2014 7:55:21 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Did governments get their fiscal houses in order and stop printing money???


3 posted on 09/22/2014 7:56:03 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I would just ask the guy two questions:

Do you have insurance on your house?

Do you complain about it and trash it because it does not show a profit; that you could make more money in the stock market?


4 posted on 09/22/2014 7:56:28 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Gold has never once in all of recorded history been “tarnished for good.”. Ever.


5 posted on 09/22/2014 7:56:51 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"The stock market, U.S. economy and the dollar are all doing quite well..."

How does a guy who lives in 1985 transmit messages to us in 2014?

6 posted on 09/22/2014 7:58:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Lurker

If there is a military offense taking place right now, that would explain why gold went down for the last week, and in particular the last day.

Depending on how thing go, it will either go back up or it will go down further.


7 posted on 09/22/2014 7:58:41 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The gold market has to get slammed before there is a base to support a very large rise. I’d just as soon get this done now than wait a couple years.

Getting slammed doesn’t mean over. It means creating a base to build from.


8 posted on 09/22/2014 7:59:36 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

He’s right.

A rising dollar pushes down the price of gold. (and also oil.) plus any other commodity priced in dollars.


9 posted on 09/22/2014 8:00:40 PM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Videotape. He never set the date and time on his VCR.


10 posted on 09/22/2014 8:00:59 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“for good”?? he can predict the future out to infinity?


11 posted on 09/22/2014 8:01:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

How odd.

The world is on a war footing, plagues are rampant, China rules the financials, the US is at last broken, in retreat financialy, apparently militarily also and collapse is a familiar word.

And gold is DOWN?

It must mean I’m really stupid to be laughing out loud.


12 posted on 09/22/2014 8:02:15 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Precious metals leading stocks down.


13 posted on 09/22/2014 8:03:54 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: RitaOK

I agree.

The only thing I could think of was Ebola, but now with conflict it appears something could become big.


14 posted on 09/22/2014 8:04:12 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Gold is a hedge against declines in equity markets. That’s the only reason I have any in my portfolio, and I’m not disappointed it’s down, since equities are up.


15 posted on 09/22/2014 8:07:42 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; jiggyboy; PA Engineer; blam; TigerLikesRooster; Cheap_Hessian; CJinVA; ...

Goldbug ping.


16 posted on 09/22/2014 8:09:31 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Everyone makes the gold thing much moire complicated than it is.

Most who buy gold do not buy it for profit as much as for protection.

Gold is down right now because the hogs are chasing the rise in the market, which is based on the crazy policies of the FED.

I suspect that everyone reading this thread is well aware of the old adage that the market slaughters hogs. The author tips his hand when he brags that the economy is on the rise, unemployment is down to 6.1%, etc.

The unemployment numbers are totally misleading and unless you look at how many new hires are temps, at what level are their wages, how long are their hours per week, you are looking at obumbler smoke and mirrors.

In addition, look at new jobs created each month versus the number who lose their job. plus the number of kids entering the market, plus the number of illegals sneaking over the border and soon to be looking for work and you see that the 6.1% thing is total BS.

Now given that the author is totally ignorant of the real world or is a shill for the criminals in DC, who would even consider his advice?

17 posted on 09/22/2014 8:11:59 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: The_Reader_David
Gold stocks can crash more violently than general equity stocks, and at the same time.
18 posted on 09/22/2014 8:12:39 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Well, is he right, or is he wrong.

Yes

19 posted on 09/22/2014 8:12:50 PM PDT by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Gold is still quite elevated by historical standards, even with the recent declines and the precipitous drop on Friday. The world is still in a very uncertain state verging upon perilous. In light of this, saying it’s tarnished for good is foolish. Saying any store of value is anything “for good” is foolish. Who knows what the future holds, that might send people screaming into precious metals once again? Flight to safety is a well-known effect of severe economic dislocation. That can have numerous causes. I tend to believe that the dollar strength we’re currently experiencing is flight to safety. Dollar strength can and does drive down the price of gold in dollars.


20 posted on 09/22/2014 8:15:37 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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