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Iranian hardliners form ‘chastity patrols’
Gulf News ^ | 9/19/2014

Posted on 09/22/2014 4:29:20 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: PapaBear3625

The breakup of islam into diferent sects occurred after Mohammed died. Who knows which sect he’d consider muslims?
As for the dominant clerical opinions.....I doubt you can say what they are.


21 posted on 09/22/2014 11:57:25 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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“The presence on the streets of some 4,000 Islamic hardliners who do not respond to any official authority will only complicate the situation for those who have a more tolerant view of hijab.
Iranian Interior Minister Abdolreza Rahmani-Fazli said the patrols would need official authorisation to operate and made it clear that such permission would be forthcoming.” — these thugs, many of them are Palestinians or imported from a few arab countries, mercenary types too, along with arabized islamic iranian regime itself need to be uprooted. Reform most likely will not happen because the regime will lose control & power. And in reality, at present there isn’t any viable person or grp to topple the regime. Unlike what was done in Egypt with the army and someone like el-Sissi.


22 posted on 09/22/2014 2:13:39 PM PDT by odds
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To: nuconvert

The Shah was at most a “cultural” Muslim.


23 posted on 09/22/2014 2:18:10 PM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: PapaBear3625

One can only speculate what Mo would have or wouldn’t have done. But judging by Mo’s words & actions in addition to history of islam in iran alone, islam does not solely take an individual’s view of the religion or how an individual chooses to practice it Privately. It dictates an all encompassing social, political & economic system with very specific & stringent rules. That’s why the concept of “nationality”, for example, isn’t acceptable. That much has been very clear. Of course people can call themselves muslims or Personally choose what to practice or not.


24 posted on 09/22/2014 2:41:02 PM PDT by odds
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To: nuconvert
The breakup of islam into diferent sects occurred after Mohammed died. Who knows which sect he’d consider muslims? As for the dominant clerical opinions.....I doubt you can say what they are.

Sounds like Taqiyya. You are dancing around the fact of what the plain text of the Quran and the hadiths say about Jihad.

By the way, care to talk about the logo on your home page?

I'm going to guess you are familiar with what Shiite clerics have to say about Jihad. Can you post any prominent cleric proclaiming that Muslims do not have any duty to support Jihad?

25 posted on 09/22/2014 3:01:41 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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Those who lived in iran during the Shah’s era, and actually knew about zoroastrianism at least as a philosohpy, would also know that the Shah & his father not only tried to diminish islamic sharia practices, and modernize but also, socially & culturally, increadingly blend islamic concepts with traditional pre-islamic iranian culture & beliefs. Many clerics recognized that, didn’t like it, & attacked him for being “westernized”, among other things. OTOH, the blend led many average iranians to think that was real deal islam, so nothing wrong with islam. Perhaps had he or his dynasty lasted another few decades & on the same track their approach would’ve been more embedded. A big problem in iran has always been the clerics, most of them anyway.


26 posted on 09/22/2014 3:19:09 PM PDT by odds
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lol


27 posted on 09/22/2014 11:36:02 PM PDT by odds
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So there’s no misunderstanding, i’m laughing cuz i think you may be onto something there.


28 posted on 09/22/2014 11:38:29 PM PDT by odds
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