Posterboy
Posted on 09/21/2014 8:01:22 AM PDT by GonzoII
Posterboy
quote-’’can’t see objectives which aren’t attainable by diplomatic or economic means.’’
By economic means you say further above, in a post,
that UKR would collapse on it own...
And by inference putler only have to pick up the pieces.
But we all know, wink, wink, including putler that
they won’t unless they lose the war..And it is war..
So when UKR made good gains in the summer, putler had
to invade to keep pressure on so they lose.
He has to help them lose the war so they collapse.
And I’ll take his word for it this once,as telegrphed by his invading actions, wink, wink...... that UKR....
is viable entity, if not losing war, if left alone.
Simple to figure out......
Who needs these pieces? I’m personally want nothing from Ukraine. But if it wants to be a proxy and a tool to push some anti-Russian agenda, let it be in pieces. I’m strictly against any aid to them for sure and they better look for a new trading partners too. After all Cuba has fond itself in similar situation in the 50s, pursuing some strange alliances away from home, pissing off their immediate neighbors. Just look at how much better off Cuba is now, comparing to their being under “Imperialist dominance”. Ukraine is itching to repeat their success. So let it be!
He has to help them lose the war so they collapse.
If they collapse it is putin/russias doing.
Got to take his inference for it this once,
as telegaphed by his invading actions,
wink, wink...... that UKR....
is viable entity, if not losing a war,
if left alone. Nobody in the world really figures
they will collapse, unless invaded by putler,
to lead to collapse, and this goofy non cease fire
is a big loss for UKR. They will pull back and behind
russians pull back lines they will keep on flooding
in so mant men and weapons, that when it starts back
up UKR is beat...without meaningful western help...
In fact faking invasion is what still keeps in intact.
Ukraine is a failed state by all accounts, run by neocon puppets. There is a direct parallel with Morsi’s Egypt. Too bad Morsi wasn’t smart enough to fake Israel’s invasion. He should have been still in power as far as public wrath could have been aimed elsewhere.
they better look for a new trading partners
AH that is what EU is for.Like Poland has more coal than
they can sell, so trade for weaponry specials UKR makes.
Trade for farm stuff,
Like UKR’s huge gas storage fields are being filled
from the west end, won’t need putler brand gas.
They only was getting 35% from him anyway.First
couple months of filling takes care of that, Exxon
and others leaving putler and will frack the hell out
of all the other fields in
UKR Poland, Ger, others who all have huge shale gas fields,
putler can sell to china, Huge oil fields there also.
UKR makes many things at reasonable prices so
they will find places to trade with...
Good luck with that. I really hope for them and in this case they would probably have a chance to finally become a nation, not a geopolitical prostitute. But there are serious doubts so far.
quote-Who needs these pieces.
Well if you and putler don’t want them, why was a proxy
war started last spring by russia and then into
a direct war by direct invasion.....
Your own words make russia look bad, if it don’t
want it.. go home.. and build pipelines to china.
The fact it is grabbing it means it is viable..
quote-become a nation, not a geopolitical prostitute
I thought that what it was when putin had his prez
stooge there running things for russias benefit,
to the detriment of UKR.
Ans it sure ain’t a US stooge as we won’t even help them,
ezcept for some MREs which russkie propaganda says UKR’s,
Nazi, Banderite, army guys eat while they are roasting
Donbass children over a spit for extra protein...
Go drink Cool-aid, hubel.
Oh you don’t like reverse sarcasm...
Well the point still is, by invading to bring down UKR
by all the chaos it causes, proves putin figures they
won’t collapse on their own.He has to help them fall.
How by creating so much disension and creating more
protests by inside agents and propaganda.
Reports from russia says they are increasing their
world wide propaganda budget by twice next year.Why,
to destroy world support for UKR, through RT and
other media, through the web world, to help aid the chaos,
to create downfall of present gov in UKR, etc,
Half of the marchers were KGB agents making notes on the other half.
I was to Ukraine and have extended family there and you probably aren’t. That is why I have a clue and you are simply philosophizing.
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