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To: wetphoenix

quote-’’can’t see objectives which aren’t attainable by diplomatic or economic means.’’

By economic means you say further above, in a post,
that UKR would collapse on it own...

And by inference putler only have to pick up the pieces.
But we all know, wink, wink, including putler that
they won’t unless they lose the war..And it is war..
So when UKR made good gains in the summer, putler had
to invade to keep pressure on so they lose.

He has to help them lose the war so they collapse.
And I’ll take his word for it this once,as telegrphed by his invading actions, wink, wink...... that UKR....

is viable entity, if not losing war, if left alone.

Simple to figure out......


22 posted on 09/25/2014 4:02:54 AM PDT by hubel458
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To: hubel458

Who needs these pieces? I’m personally want nothing from Ukraine. But if it wants to be a proxy and a tool to push some anti-Russian agenda, let it be in pieces. I’m strictly against any aid to them for sure and they better look for a new trading partners too. After all Cuba has fond itself in similar situation in the 50s, pursuing some strange alliances away from home, pissing off their immediate neighbors. Just look at how much better off Cuba is now, comparing to their being under “Imperialist dominance”. Ukraine is itching to repeat their success. So let it be!


23 posted on 09/25/2014 4:14:58 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: hubel458

He has to help them lose the war so they collapse.
If they collapse it is putin/russias doing.

Got to take his inference for it this once,
as telegaphed by his invading actions,
wink, wink...... that UKR....

is viable entity, if not losing a war,

if left alone. Nobody in the world really figures

they will collapse, unless invaded by putler,

to lead to collapse, and this goofy non cease fire

is a big loss for UKR. They will pull back and behind

russians pull back lines they will keep on flooding

in so mant men and weapons, that when it starts back

up UKR is beat...without meaningful western help...


24 posted on 09/25/2014 4:18:20 AM PDT by hubel458
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