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'Divorced and remarried Catholics – We’ve got to do something'/ Poll (Freeps needed!)
The Providence Journal / ^ | Published: September 18, 2014 08:55 AM | KAREN LEE ZINER

Posted on 09/20/2014 5:54:47 PM PDT by narses

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1 posted on 09/20/2014 5:54:47 PM PDT by narses
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2 posted on 09/20/2014 5:55:14 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: narses

Wow, I even think annulment is abused.
I realize how difficult it must be for people in this situation, but let’s face it, nobody said life dosn’t have difficulties.


3 posted on 09/20/2014 6:01:37 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: narses
“I think it’s something we have to look at,” Bishop Tobin said. “I was very clear about saying I don’t have the answers. But we’ve got a challenge here. We’ve got a problem. We have to at least look at it and talk about it. Otherwise, if we go through this long synod process for the next two years and end up where we are now, that will be a failure.”

You're right you've got a problem, dude. There are too many people in your flock who stand before God and vow to remain married until death do them part, then decide some time later that a vow before God isn't all that important after all.

Making it easier and more acceptable for them to break those vows ain't gonna help any of them. It ain't gonna help you when you stand before God, either.

4 posted on 09/20/2014 6:01:42 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: narses

Thank God that his Church is not run by a democracy. That said, this poll is useless ... if one is living in mortal sin, one should not present themselves for communion. That will never change.


5 posted on 09/20/2014 6:02:34 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: narses
“Although the teaching of Christ and his Church about the permanence of marriage is clear and undeniable, the lived reality is that many individuals, for a variety of reasons perhaps — personal, catechetical or cultural — are ill-equipped to fulfill the demands of the law,” Bishop Tobin wrote.

Pardon my language, but what the f#&% does that mean?

6 posted on 09/20/2014 6:03:39 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: Alberta's Child

They’re just going to give up and go with the flow, like a dead fish going downstream.


7 posted on 09/20/2014 6:06:02 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: narses

Freep those polls!


8 posted on 09/20/2014 6:06:06 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: narses

I’m not Catholic and I’m genuinely curious. How would the following situation be managed by the Catholic Church?

A man and a woman marry. They produce a child. Two years later, when the child is 3 months old, the man comes home from work and tells the woman, “I made a mistake. I don’t want this. I’m divorcing you.”

He walks out. She goes home to her parents. He files for a civil divorce two weeks later.

According to the Catholic Church, what happens to the young woman? When can she remarry?


9 posted on 09/20/2014 6:13:44 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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Assuming that the marriage is valid, when the man dies.


10 posted on 09/20/2014 6:20:28 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Marie

The wife can receive the Sacraments as long as she doesn’t remarry.

In the situation you describe, an annulment would like be quite easy, since the marriage may not have been valid from the beginning.


11 posted on 09/20/2014 6:21:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Should divorced and civilly remarried Catholics be allowed to receive Communion? (4,040 votes)

Yes: 67% (2,699)

No: 33% (1,341)


12 posted on 09/20/2014 6:22:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: All

from what i was taught
WHAT GOD HAS JOINED TOGETHER LET NO MAN PUT ASUNDER.


13 posted on 09/20/2014 6:28:47 PM PDT by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: Marie

She can have it annulled and remarry.That is if they were married in the church.If it was a civil ceremony it goes much faster.I think the Bishop brings out some good points to be resolved.


14 posted on 09/20/2014 6:31:51 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Salvation

Suppose a person does not receive the sacraments. Can they still be saved?


15 posted on 09/20/2014 6:33:24 PM PDT by Ken H
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Why wouldn’t a Catholic want to receive the Sacraments?

They are a source of grace.


16 posted on 09/20/2014 6:38:46 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; Marie; sitetest
In the situation you describe, an annulment would like be quite easy, since the marriage may not have been valid from the beginning.

Pardon me, but what in our doctrine, in our canon law or on God's earth would lead you or anyone else to believe that a years-long Catholic marriage that produces a child should get an "easy" annulment and was not "valid from the beginning?"

To put it another way, what church is it that you belong to that would so easily make innocent children bastards?

Those are rhetorical questions BTW. I know my catechism well enough to not be interested in your answer.

17 posted on 09/20/2014 6:40:02 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Ken H

Yes you can go to confession and be in a state of grace.The crazy thing about this is one partner does not want to divorce.They are force to through our courts.My sister received the last Rites and she was married to a divorced man for 40 years.His wife divorced him and he didn’t want it.He was also a non-catholic and felt with an annulment it would label his kids.He would not annul-she died in a state of grace.


18 posted on 09/20/2014 6:44:23 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Salvation
I did not limit my question to Catholics.

Suppose a person does not receive the sacraments. Can they still be saved, yes or no?

19 posted on 09/20/2014 6:45:48 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: fatima
He was also a non-catholic and felt with with an annulment it would label his kids.He would not annul-she died in a state of grace.

What about him?

20 posted on 09/20/2014 6:47:42 PM PDT by Ken H
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