Posted on 09/19/2014 9:39:11 PM PDT by This Just In
As the popularity of alternative-lifestyle choice ‘veganism’ increases across Europe, officials in Switzerland have expressed concerns about the health implications for children who have the unusual diet forced on them by “idealistic” parents.
In the statement, Swiss officials said: “Vegan food is not recommended for young children. It can cause serious harm”. The lack of vitamin B12, which is seriously deficient in Vegan diets is the main cause of the interjection by federal health officials, who have warned denying children access to animal-derived food at an early age can cause health problems.
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Yep. While there are many vegetarian cultures and societies that have endured over many generations (look to India, for example), there are exactly ZERO vegan cultures or civilizations because veganism is a DEAD END survival wise. It is literally Darwinism in action.
Really? According to the nutritional chart at Healthalicious, the percentage of B12 in flax is exactly ... ZIP.
You don’t offend my faith - it’s much too strong for to be bothered by another faith group’s traditions. Now islam on the other hand....
Duh!
I didn’t climb all the way to the top of the Food Chain to eat Tofu.
The mature brain is not as susceptible to these insults. However, I would not be surprised if some of these things caused damage in the mature brain, as well.
This is one reason why vegans need to be careful about things like the right combination of amino acids (proteins) within a twelve hour period and adequate B12 over a two or three month period. For example, wheat, which has three "limiting amino acids" must be complemented the same day by legumes (beans, peas, lentils), which have different limiting amino acids. Also,the body has a several month supply of B12, but since it can only metabolize a small amount every day, B12 in some form must be supplemented with ground flax seeds or chemically formulated B12 at least a couple of times per week.
A more reliable source of natural B12 is Red Star nutritional yeast vegetarian support formula. Popping a B12 supplement pill every couple of days is just easier for me.
LOL! Coming from the poster who posted the article titled
Veganism "Can Cause Serious Harm" Say Swiss Authorities
I guess those Swiss authorities know best, right?
Wrong, Kennard. It is the same as it has always been. The only thing that has changed is man's supposed knowledge of it. Not so long ago nutrition "experts" were recommending bad things like forgoing eggs and eating hydrogenated (Crisco, margarine) fats in lieu of lard or butter, only to discover that hydrogenated fats are downright BAD for you.
As a vegan, I only take one supplement pill for B12 ever couple of days. That is for convenience only. I could consume ground flax seeds or Red Star nutritional yeast vegetarian support formula. Bottom line: pills are not necessary.
As a vegan, I only take one supplement pill for B12 ever couple of days. That is for convenience only. I could consume ground flax seeds or Red Star nutritional yeast vegetarian support formula. Bottom line: pills are not necessary.
I repeat: from a nutritional standpoint, veganism in homo sapiens is Darwinism in action. It is why human babies WILL DIE if asked to live on a vegan diet, whereas human babies can and do thrive on a vegetarian diet that includes animal protein in dairy and eggs.
And rightly. Your doctor is a quack if he tells you that eating a diet that would result in DEATH for a human being under the age of 4 or 5 (whereas that same child, even without breast milk, could healthily survive on a vegetarian diet with dairy/eggs), is "healthy" for you.
Frankly, I don't care if you are vain and "smart" enough to fall for the Vegan conceit, and that is exactly what it is -- your doctor and you think you're smarter than God and Nature. You're not -- if you were in charge nutrition-wise, humans would become extinct, HELLO?
What I care about is when I see young Americans, particularly young female Americans whose bodies are particularly dependent on animal proteins for certain nutrients, look at you as "proof" that veganism isn't stupidity, and then endanger their own AND THEIR FUTURE CHILDREN's LIVES and health by going "vegan." I have been, for nearly 40 years, very close, up front and close, to the egotistic prideful destruction of vegans and the damage and abuse it has caused in innocent children.
IF you are in "excellent health," it is ONLY because of animal-based supplements (sorry, Kennard, THERE ARE ZERO VEGETABLE SOURCES OF B-12 no matter how much you pretend otherwise) produced by people whose brains are top-functional because they eat animal protein.
It’s quite apparent that someone didnt read ANY of the information provided in this thread and argue on these points. It’s the lazyman response and much easier to lob “haha” comments rather than to examine the info.
Lol
Nope. Most vitamins (including B-12) metabolize differently when taken as a supplement, rather than bound in food. Vitamin pills are almost all flushed from the system without more than a trace amount of absorption (which is why most supplements include way more of any vitamin than for the daily requirement... and still less than would be gained through normal food-absorption). This is one of the few “facts” in nutritional science that is exceptionally well-researched and pretty universally understood. If you’ve missed this in your research, you may not be as well informed as you think...
My ponderings were more along the lines of world population/birth and population control.
I have no problem getting my B12 from cyanocobalamin, which is how products are fortified to produce B12, or which is contained in B12 supplement pills..
Cyanocobalamin usually does not occur in living organisms, but animals can convert commercially produced cyanocobalamin into active (cofactor) forms of the vitamin B12, such as methylcobalamin.
It does not derive from a living organism, though it comes from a lab.
The fact that homo sapiens, unlike other primates, lost the ability to produce B12 somewhere in the last million years or so does not deter me from finding the best nutritional solution. That is the only chink in the intellectual armor of a vegan, though a minor one. Cyanocobalamin is not injurious to human health, which is my only concern.
Given the fact that you didn’t bother to read ANY of the info cited on this thread, and yet comment on the subject of this thread doesn’t say much about your foot stomping tantrum.
You are correct. Regarding B12, the body only absorbs about 10mg per dose. The rest is excreted. That is why, though we all have a B12 supply of several months to several years, vegans must take some B12 supplement every few days. Cyanocobalamin, the non-animal source which the body uses to manufacture B12, is so inexpensive that doses are usually 100mg or 250mg. No harm done.
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