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Conservatives don't foresee challenge to John Boehner's speakership
cleveland.com ^ | 9/18/14 | Sabrina Eaton

Posted on 09/19/2014 5:56:39 AM PDT by cotton1706

WASHINGTON, D. C. -- The House of Representatives' most conservative members -- who have grumbled in the past about ousting Ohio's John Boehner from his job as House Speaker -- now say they're happy with their treatment and don't expect to mount an insurrection in the next Congress.

Members of the Republican Study Committee told reporters at their monthly "Conversations with Conservatives" gathering that they believe that newly established Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy and GOP Whip Steve Scalise -- who chaired the study committee before assuming his new job -- are doing a better job listening to the sentiments of those in the GOP Conference.

South Carolina's Mick Mulvaney said he was pleased that when Republican leaders didn't have enough votes to pass immigration legislation in August, they sat down with conservatives to "get the bill a bit further to the right" so it could pass with Republican votes.

He said that in the past, GOP leaders would have tried to get votes from Democrats, or send Congress home without a vote.

"It is a more bottom-up management style than it has been in the past and the outcomes have been better because they're more conservative," Mulvaney said.

Idaho's Raul Labrador, who challenged McCarthy's bid for Majority Leader, said he felt GOP leaders heard his message that they needed "to start listening to the conference."

(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...


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To: Starboard
BTW, your children will have the “privilege” of dealing with a debt that will soon be approaching $20 TRILLION.

Unless your children are murdered by the people being armed by your government.
41 posted on 09/19/2014 7:05:16 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: bigbob

BINGO!!! We have a winner.

IMO the Tea Party represented our best opportunity to mount a drive for meaningful change. Alas, it has not taken on the national dimension that it needs to.


42 posted on 09/19/2014 7:05:39 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard; sickoflibs

I don’t expect the Earth to move with Republican gains, but I would be nice to get out of the hell fire of Obama/Reid and back into the pan. We’ll cook slower.


43 posted on 09/19/2014 7:06:09 AM PDT by Impy (Think for yourself)
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To: Impy

I agree. At this point it would just be nice to see Reid replaced and to hopefully constrain Obama for the next two years (if we last that long).


44 posted on 09/19/2014 7:12:46 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: cotton1706

“Oh, heck yes we’re planning to get rid of that hoser,” said the congressman, affixing a large, glow-in-the-dark target to his backside.

Seriously, if any conservative congressman was so dim as to admit this publicly, instead of discreetly scheming for an ouster of Boehner and the other leadership, only acting if they had the votes, then he is too dim-witted to be a congressman.


45 posted on 09/19/2014 7:34:11 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: cotton1706

46 posted on 09/19/2014 7:55:53 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Graewoulf

Good post Graewoulf...sharing


47 posted on 09/19/2014 8:07:18 AM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: cotton1706

The Potomac water is the problem.


48 posted on 09/19/2014 8:19:10 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Impy; Bratch

I think Bratch is talking about Newt.


49 posted on 09/19/2014 9:01:46 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: cotton1706

I guess the Republicans are really trying to lose the coming election.

The Speaker of the house must Go.


50 posted on 09/19/2014 9:49:04 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Graewoulf

BTTT!


51 posted on 09/19/2014 11:33:22 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Impy
It was Newt.

Per Wikipedia

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When the Republican Party gained control of the House in 1995 following the 1994 election, or "Republican Revolution", DeLay was electedMajority Whip against the wishes of House Speaker-elect Newt Gingrich.

DeLay was not always on good terms with Gingrich or Dick Armey, the House Majority Leader from 1995 to 2003, and he reportedly considered them uncommitted to Christian values. Nevertheless, in the heyday of the 104th Congress (1995–1997), DeLay described the Republican leadership as a triumvirate of Gingrich, "the visionary"; Armey, "the policywonk"; and himself, "the ditch digger who makes it all happen".[14]

In the summer of 1997 several House Republicans, who saw Speaker Newt Gingrich's public image as a liability, attempted to replace him as Speaker. The attempted "coup" began July 9 with a meeting between Republican conference chairman John Boehner of Ohio and Republican leadership chairman Bill Paxon of New York. According to their plan, House Majority Leader Dick Armey, House Majority Whip DeLay, Boehner and Paxon were to present Gingrich with an ultimatum: resign, or be voted out. However, Armey balked at the proposal to make Paxon the new Speaker, and told his chief of staff to warn Gingrich about the coup.[15]

On July 11, Gingrich met with senior Republican leadership to assess the situation. He explained that under no circumstance would he step down. If he was voted out, there would be a new election for Speaker, which would allow for the possibility that Democrats—along with dissenting Republicans—would vote in Dick Gephardt as Speaker. On July 16, Paxon offered to resign his post, feeling that he had not handled the situation correctly, as the only member of the leadership who had been appointed to his position—by Gingrich—instead of elected.[16]

As Majority Whip, DeLay earned the nickname "The Hammer" for his enforcement of party discipline in close votes and his reputation for wreaking political vengeance on opponents. DeLay has expressed a liking for his nickname, pointing out that the hammer is one of a carpenter's most valuable tools.[17] In the 104th Congress, DeLay successfully whipped 300 out of 303 bills.[18] In 1998, DeLay worked to ensure that the House vote on impeaching President Bill Clinton was successful.[9] DeLay rejected efforts to censure Clinton, who, DeLay said, had lied under oath.[19] DeLay posited that the U.S. Constitution allowed the House to punish the president only through impeachment. He called on Clinton to resign and personally compelled enough House members to vote to approve two articles of impeachment.[19][20] Republicans paid the price at the polls during the 1998 congressional "midterm" election, as the GOP sustained a net loss of five seats to Democrats in the House of Representatives.

Newt Gingrich, whose approval as Speaker, both in the Congress and in the public eye, had already greatly suffered due to his polarizing political style and a formal House reprimand and $300,000 fine for political ethics violations, was widely blamed for the political failure of impeachment and the House losses by Republicans in the 1998 midterms and during the1996 general election as well. Facing the second major attempt in as many years by House Republicans, including DeLay, to oust him as Speaker, Gingrich announced he would resign from Congress. Following Gingrich's announcement, Appropriations Committee chairman Bob Livingston of Louisiana became the presumptive Speaker-elect until December 1998, when, during House debate over its still-ongoing impeachment proceedings, he admitted to extramarital affairs himself and withdrew his name from consideration as Speaker. Armey was out of the running after fending off a bruising challenge to his majority leader's post from Steve Largent of Oklahoma, and DeLay, as the third-ranking House Republican, appeared to have the inside track to the Speakership. However DeLay decided that he would be "too nuclear" to lead the closely divided House that had resulted from the Republican House losses in 1996 and 1998. So instead DeLay proposed his chief vote-counter, Chief Deputy Whip Dennis Hastert, as a compromise candidate, since Hastert had very good relations on both sides of the aisle. As Congress reconvened in January 1999, Hastert was elected House Speaker, and DeLay was reelected House Majority Whip.[21]


They also threw Tom Delay under the bus.

In 2005, DeLay was indicted in Austin on criminal charges of conspiracy to violate election law in 2002 by a Travis County grand jury after having waived his rights under the statutes of limitations. In accordance with Republican Caucus rules, DeLay temporarily resigned from his position as House Majority Leader, and later, after pressure from fellow Republicans, announced that he would not seek to return to the position. He was convicted in January 2011 and sentenced to three years in prison but was free on bail while appealing his conviction. The trial court's judgment was overturned by the Texas Court of Appeals, an intermediate appellate court, on September 19, 2013, with a ruling that "the evidence in the case was 'legally insufficient to sustain DeLay's convictions'", and DeLay was formally acquitted.[1] The State of Texas appealed the acquittal to the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals, which heard oral arguments on June 18, 2014, and is not expected to render its decision until 2015.[2][3]

52 posted on 09/19/2014 11:57:37 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: cotton1706

So join is nice and effective, at losing.


53 posted on 09/19/2014 1:14:34 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: cotton1706

Boehner not so sure LOL!
http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/possible-rules-change-could-punish-boehner-dissidents-20140919
“... a concrete proposal that is beginning to circulate in the House. According to people briefed on it, any Republican who votes on the House floor in January against the conference’s nominee for House speaker—that is, the candidate chosen by a majority of the House GOP during its closed-door leadership elections in November—would be severely punished. Specifically, sources say, any dissenters would be stripped of all committee assignments for that Congress.

“There’s a real concern that there’s between 30 and 40 people that would vote against the speaker on the House floor, so they’re trying to change the conference rules to make sure that doesn’t happen,” said a GOP member familiar with the proposal.

At the same, time, according to sources, conservative lawmakers are discussing something of a counter-proposal. Under their plan, the November leadership elections would be pushed back until after the lame-duck session of Congress ends in December. This idea was described by one House conservative as a preemptive strike to warn leadership not to consider any significant legislation during the 15-day period between November’s midterm elections and the start of the new Congress in January.”


54 posted on 09/19/2014 1:20:10 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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