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Judge rebukes ATF over treatment of agent who infiltrated Hells Angels
Fox News ^ | 16 September 2014 | http://www.foxnews.com/archive/william-jeunesse

Posted on 09/16/2014 5:45:04 PM PDT by KC Burke

excert.. By William La Jeunesse, Laura PrabuckiPublished September 16, 2014

A federal judge on Tuesday gave another black eye to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, issuing a scathing rebuke of the agency's handling of the career and security of one of its own -- celebrated undercover agent Jay Dobyns, who infiltrated the notorious Hells Angels.

After a costly six-year legal battle, Judge Francis Allegra, with the federal claims court in Washington, D.C., chastised the ATF for failing to adequately protect Dobyns and his family from the gang.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; dobyns; fastandfurious
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The Judge today found that the ATF management that ran the Fast and Furious program that brought about Terry's death were also culpable in exposing ATF undercover agent Jay Dobyns to the Hell's Angels contract killer threat and danger and awarded Dobyns additional monies for damages.

The video at the link covers how this tied to Fast and Furious and the article explains the award today of damages on top of the damages already awarded.

1 posted on 09/16/2014 5:45:04 PM PDT by KC Burke
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Gee, maybe TV shows should quit portraying biker gangs as loveable bad boys led by handsome Prince Hamlet types.


2 posted on 09/16/2014 5:49:49 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: KC Burke

Dicks...


3 posted on 09/16/2014 5:50:24 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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ATF is the trailer park trash branch of federal law enforcement agencies.


4 posted on 09/16/2014 5:51:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: ozzymandus

I watched one hamlet carve into a guys chest last week on SOA. Sweet.


5 posted on 09/16/2014 5:53:28 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: ozzymandus

Aside from the career criminals....most bikers are working class guys that wouldnt hurt a flea....and I would remind you that the patriot guard riders are all bikers too...as are the 2 million riders to DC every 9/11...

If you want to slam bikers...paint with a smaller brush eh...


6 posted on 09/16/2014 5:53:32 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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I’m sure ATF will have no trouble getting another volunteer to penetrate a criminal organization now that every knows how they’ve handled this one.


7 posted on 09/16/2014 5:54:11 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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To: ozzymandus

It’s not the fake motorcycle gangs who are the problem in this story, it’s our own real life government.


8 posted on 09/16/2014 5:57:04 PM PDT by jocon307
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Allegra, in his decision, also denied government claims for royalties from Dobyns' book.

You have got to be kidding me.

I have never heard of a government agency trying to collect royalties from an employee’s book.

That has got to be nothing but pure harassment.

This is the canary in the AFT’s mine. This shows that the ATF management had it in for this guy. For whatever reason they hate this guy.

9 posted on 09/16/2014 6:00:12 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: morphing libertarian

The SOA guys are a bunch of subhuman filth. I hope the end is as bloody as the end of Hamlet. Jack’s idea of going straight by going whole hog into the pornographic and prostitution businesses was a real howler.


10 posted on 09/16/2014 6:00:56 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: KC Burke

VERY long time coming.


11 posted on 09/16/2014 6:01:42 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: libstripper

those young guys always think they know best.

Relax. It’s a tv show.


12 posted on 09/16/2014 6:02:26 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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Judge Francis Allegra...chastised the ATF for failing to adequately protect Dobyns and his family from the gang.

I agree with the premise that the goobermint could have done more...but, Mr. Dobyns wrote a very explicit book soon after his emergence from undercover, appeared on several documentaries on biker gang exploits and lectured to LE all over the country on his undercover exploits.

He didn't exactly make himself a small target.

Most folks in the LE world and in the "outlaw" biker culture agree that Mr. Dobyns is, at best, an egotistical attention seeker who kept few secrets about his methods, his contacts, his means of doing business and with who he did business.

Truth be known, a lot of time and money was invested in an undercover investigation that really went nowhere and accomplished little, other than the intelligence it provided.

13 posted on 09/16/2014 6:12:17 PM PDT by OldSmaj (obama is a worthless mohametan. Impeach his ass now!)
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To: Vendome

Who’d wanna work for an agency that screws its people over?


14 posted on 09/16/2014 6:17:15 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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we have immense budget deficits and it is abundantly clear that the ATF cannot get its act together.

the first step in a show of good faith and governance would be to scrap the agency completly and release them to work in the private sector, certainly not in any aspect of enforcing the law.

the ATF neatly encapsulates the notion of out-of-control governance and bad judgement.


15 posted on 09/16/2014 6:19:11 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: ozzymandus

It’s a TV show...


16 posted on 09/16/2014 6:21:16 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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I bought this place from the dad of the man who owned it, he was murdered here by Hell’s Angels.

They busted in, and shot him to death.


17 posted on 09/16/2014 6:34:21 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Mmogamer

I dunno. Lots of peep holes werx at Macdonaldz end Wall Mart.


18 posted on 09/16/2014 6:46:47 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: KC Burke

Maybe ATFE thought he went native.


19 posted on 09/16/2014 6:51:56 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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“Gee, maybe TV shows should quit portraying biker gangs as loveable bad boys led by handsome Prince Hamlet types.”

With the exception of misspelling lovable, you, Sir, are a genius. I am so dumbfounded by the people that want to dress and appear like bikers; the clothing, the faux Nazi soldier helmet, the obnoxiously loud bikes (don’t say it is for safety when you wear the smallest legal helmet, dark clothes, small lights, etc. not to mention the Doppler effect.). Real bikers do some horribly evil things to gain rank; murder, rape, robbery, kidnap, sex with cadavers, etc. Dressing like a motorcycle gang member is akin to young white people dressing like drug dealing, gang banging, rappers. Thanks for calling a spade a spade.


20 posted on 09/16/2014 6:52:07 PM PDT by rey
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