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Up to a Point: A Free Scotland Would Be a Hilarious Disaster
The Daily Beast ^ | 9-13-2014 | P. J. O’Rourke

Posted on 09/16/2014 6:34:55 AM PDT by servo1969

Edited on 09/16/2014 7:35:55 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Hulka
you got to respect a people so barbaric and with such violent potential that the Roman Empire built a wall to keep THEM out.

It's just that the adventurous and fierce ones either migrated here to populate our South, from which we have traditionally drawn much of our military, or died in WWI or II. Leaving the layabouts. Depleted nation.

However, if they do get independent and slash the size of governent and throw off the EU with its corrosive injection of muslim immigrants into every productive EU nation, it might have a chance of attracting those Scots-Irish Americans who are fed up with the way things are going here, so as to infuse some ancient strengths back in.

61 posted on 09/16/2014 12:50:54 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (S.I.N. = Systematic Inversion of Norms)
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To: Hulka
Scots scared the Romans, that is a fact.


"It's-a noon. Havva nice-a cuppa vino."


"I kill you."

62 posted on 09/16/2014 12:58:31 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (S.I.N. = Systematic Inversion of Norms)
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To: Albion Wilde

Go to just about any pub in Glasgow and you’ll find someone that will tell you how the Scots invented everything...


63 posted on 09/16/2014 1:21:48 PM PDT by southernmann
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To: Albion Wilde

The book certainly got good reviews.


64 posted on 09/16/2014 1:45:15 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: CodeToad

Difference is, Scotland is fully represented in Parliament AND has its own Parliament. The colonies were always children destined to leave the nest, either angrily like the US or on better terms like Canada or Australia, England and Scotland are in a marriage, and that is not supposed to end.


65 posted on 09/16/2014 1:57:08 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Ten years ago we had a family wedding in Ireland. My niece was married at the same church where my grandfather was baptized. After the wedding, most of us took a road tour of Ireland. We decided to spend a night in Mullaghamore on the west coast. We were sitting at a sidewalk table outside a pub, and we engaged a vacationing couple from Northern Ireland in a conversation about their relationship with the Crown. The guy told us that Ulster was quite happy to stay with the UK. If Ulster were to pull out of the Union, they would lose hundreds of millions of pounds of welfare from her majesty. I suppose the same thing would happen to Scotland the Brave.


66 posted on 09/16/2014 2:32:18 PM PDT by Ax
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To: PGR88

I tend to agree...Id like to see independence, but the basis of this is more of a chance to rape the more well off, including evil corporations. They may end up with a mass exodus of talented people heading south.


67 posted on 09/16/2014 3:24:20 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Sacajaweau

It’s a wonderful read.


68 posted on 09/16/2014 3:49:14 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (S.I.N. = Systematic Inversion of Norms)
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To: Hulka

In fact the Romans campaigned well north of the Wall, sweeping all opposing forces from the field and withdrawing when their were no inhabited places left to take and burn and no remaining organized forces opposing them.

See Agricola and the battle of Mons Gropius.


69 posted on 09/16/2014 5:33:46 PM PDT by skepsel
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To: miss marmelstein

I did, but this was painful.


70 posted on 09/17/2014 9:14:02 AM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: Albion Wilde

Great book. The Mark of the Scots by Duncan A Bruce is also terrific.


71 posted on 09/17/2014 9:14:33 AM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: southernmann

Well, the amount we have done (not to mention literature, science etc) is ridiculous.


72 posted on 09/17/2014 9:15:11 AM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: servo1969

Somebody want to tell this ‘irishman’ that his ancestors were invaders and conquerers?. That they threw out/destroyed the native Beaker People?.

Something Irish Nationalism strangely forgets.


73 posted on 09/17/2014 9:16:39 AM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: skepsel

The Romans DID take and subjugate parts of Scotland, but unlike England and Wales, their hold was always tenuous at best and almost as soon as they ‘conquered’, there were rebellions and attacks. Eventually they gave up Caledonia and retreated to the border.


74 posted on 09/17/2014 9:18:34 AM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: the scotsman

We agree!

I was glad to read in another post of your decision to vote no. Hope you saw the Auld Lang Syne Cairn of friendship article from earlier:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3204822/posts


75 posted on 09/17/2014 9:30:18 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (S.I.N. = Systematic Inversion of Norms)
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