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Milton Wolf should bring his tea party followers into Pat Roberts’ camp
kansascity.com ^ | 9/13/14 | Steve Rose

Posted on 09/14/2014 5:48:35 AM PDT by cotton1706

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To: bert

In just a few words....destroying the gop is not pie in the sky.


41 posted on 09/14/2014 7:07:27 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: bert

Dump McConnell and Roberts. Neither one has done Anything to stop
the Obama train.


42 posted on 09/14/2014 7:08:06 AM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
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To: cotton1706

Vote commie nationally, American locally, and hope it triggers either Article V or civil war. Because that is how this BS is going to end.


43 posted on 09/14/2014 7:08:27 AM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: Paladin2
Roberts at least voted with Cruz a couple of times.

How many more times has he voted against Cruz, or voted opposite the way Cruz likely would have voted if he'd been in the Senate at the time?

44 posted on 09/14/2014 7:10:06 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: txrefugee

“Roberts hadn’t lived in KS for decades. Why should he represent the voters in KS?”

This is not directed at the poster.

I have a few questions and would appreciate honest reflection on them. Where do laura Ingram, Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, Mark Levin, Sarah Palin and other endorsers of Tea Party Candidates live? Your state? How about Rush Limbaugh who is reported to have coined the tern, RINO? How did you learn to read about events and complain that the mainstream media never report on them. How many books have you read that were not written by one or more of the above mentioned people?

Where does their influence come from? Do you believe everything they say? Why do they carry more weight with you than your own member of congress, Mayor and city councilman?

Do you recognize that you are in an echo chamber that has become a cult? Do you think you could go to congress and change it? Anyone else? Does our form of government evolve? Do you think the poplar vote should be acceptable? Should people who think only your way be allowed to serve?

Obviously I don’t expect answers, but I do expect some very angry posts. Maybe a few honest “I hadn’t thought of it that way” responses.

I get called names for saying how I feel but I make it a point of trying to behave like a civilized adult.


45 posted on 09/14/2014 7:15:43 AM PDT by billhilly (Its OK, the left hated Bush.)
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To: billhilly
Where are we if a RINO majority in the US Senate turns on constitutional conservatives instead of the establishment they're part of?

Would we be better off with a strong minority of 'pubs in the US Senate (with a few more real conservatives) and an HOR that actually does its job and doesn't fund Obama's unconstitutional agenda? Our problem has been the HOR ALWAYS backing down about funding.

46 posted on 09/14/2014 7:24:40 AM PDT by grania
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To: DanZ

“We have lived through FIVE presidential cycles where this crapp has swayed us to vote for loosers like Dole, McCain etc.

Who are WE, and what is crapp? What are loosers? Should IQ tests be a requirement for voting? Which five presidential cycles?


47 posted on 09/14/2014 7:25:45 AM PDT by billhilly (Its OK, the left hated Bush.)
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To: DanZ

“We have lived through FIVE presidential cycles where this crapp has swayed us to vote for loosers like Dole, McCain etc.

Who are WE, and what is crapp? What are loosers? Should IQ tests be a requirement for voting?


48 posted on 09/14/2014 7:26:32 AM PDT by billhilly (Its OK, the left hated Bush.)
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To: billhilly

I’ll answer honestly.

Where do laura Ingram, Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, Mark Levin, Sarah Palin and other endorsers of Tea Party Candidates live? Your state? - No, I live in MA. None of them live here.

How about Rush Limbaugh who is reported to have coined the tern, RINO? - again. No. He lives in Florida.

How did you learn to read about events and complain that the mainstream media never report on them. - Being from MA, where talk radio got it’s start, I saw that very early as I would read the papers and on the radio would be stories that weren’t in either one. Political scandals were covered up, etc. And that was just locally. But it led to seeing the same thing on the national level.

How many books have you read that were not written by one or more of the above mentioned people? - Hundreds. I read Beck’s “The Overton Window” and wasn’t impressed. Levin is much more along my line, a lot more constitutional stuff. I’ve read Rush’s four books. I tend to read a lot from the Founders (go to the source) and have written a book based on John Adams’ writings.

Where does their influence come from? - I think it comes from being a conservative voice in a world of liberalism, the same source of Goldwater seizing the nomination and Reagan’s popularity.

Do you believe everything they say? - no I don’t. I have enough knowledge to tell if what they are saying is true, or if I don’t, I research it.

Why do they carry more weight with you than your own member of congress, Mayor and city councilman? - easy answer on that one. I live in MA.

Do you recognize that you are in an echo chamber that has become a cult? - That’s ridiculous. Do you not enjoy talking to people that are of the same mind once in a while? To realize, “it’s not just me that thinks this way.” Do you say the same thing to the Establishment, who are definitely in an echo chamber that disdains any other views but their own.

Do you think you could go to congress and change it? Anyone else? - It takes a while to turn a ship, but yes, government has been changed by individuals before.

Does our form of government evolve? - No, it remains republican, but the leftist would like to turn it into a social democracy, with limited influence from the people, with judges and unelected executive agencies making the “laws” we should live under.

Do you think the poplar vote should be acceptable? - in what respect? to elect our leaders, yes. If this question refers to the electoral college, it’s still a popular vote, just at the state level. The people have the authority to enact law through electing their legislatures, or acting as their own legislature through referenda, etc.

Should people who think only your way be allowed to serve? - another ridiculous question. Of course not.


49 posted on 09/14/2014 7:36:29 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: DanZ; bert

“Well, Well, Well, - We have recent examples of N.E. RINO Senators becoming Democrats.”

Did I miss something, and they moved Kansas to the N.E.?


50 posted on 09/14/2014 7:46:07 AM PDT by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: cotton1706

I agree 100%!!! We must destroy Obama and the Democrat Party...right now...at the ballot box in Novmber, 2014!!! Then...and only then, we can selectively weed out the left-wing Pubbie RINOs!!! RINOS are not a threat to the nation....Obama and his Obamabot Democrats certainly are!!!


51 posted on 09/14/2014 7:52:49 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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To: bert

“No democrat is better than a Republican. The senate must become Republican.”

This year John Warner, Richard Lugar disagree with you. They have both endorsed the democrats running in the race. They apparently don’t care about a “republican senate.” Also, former republican governor Milliken in MI has endorsed the democrat for Senate, and there was that group of republicans in Kansas that endorsed Orman instead of Roberts.

Clearly, not all republicans are working to ensure that the Senate becomes republican.


52 posted on 09/14/2014 8:06:10 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: grania; billhilly; All

Do rock-ribbed Conservatives like Cruz and Lee have more power and influence in the minority, or would they have more in the majority?

Could they do more if they could lead a Senate committee and set the agenda?

What would Trey Gouty be doing today if Pelosi was running the House instead of the weeper? Would anyone even know who he is?

You can’t build your herd by cutting your prized bulls nuts off and not letting them breed, and you can’t build tomorrows leaders by never letting them lead anything.


53 posted on 09/14/2014 8:08:46 AM PDT by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: Beagle8U
If the constitutional conservatives are too weak in a majority, they'll be ignored. And when something passes the US Senate with RINOs and some dems, the HOR will get enough votes to go along.

Look at the Democrats. A lot of them are supposed to be opposed to regime change and wars to satisfy corporate lust for oil and power. But they've been totally out of the picture....because Obama as leader of their own party has ignored them, and they won't disagree with the agenda. Have any of them objected to anything?

54 posted on 09/14/2014 8:19:12 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

Our conservatives in the Senate are powerless in the minority.


55 posted on 09/14/2014 8:23:33 AM PDT by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: cotton1706

It is foolish to assume a homogenity that doesn’t exist. There is no total consensus even among the conservatives on Free Republic

There is not now and never will be a Republican caucus that conforms to some idealistic conservative orthodoxy. I think that to prevail, conservatives must be inclusive rather than exclusive

Being agin every person that doesn’t agree with you on every subject right down the line is a losing proposition. If there is a filing of Free Reuublic it is the prevailing tendency to be agin to the point of becoming irrelevant


56 posted on 09/14/2014 8:53:05 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: billhilly

BillHilly - you are posting dumb questions

“Where does their influence come from? Do you believe everything they say? Why do they carry more weight with you than your own member of congress, Mayor and city councilman?”

What have OUR “Republican” members of Congress done onver the last 25 years to LIMIT the size, scope interference with everyday life of the average American? - They have increase the SIZE and POWER of the Fed. G’ment, thus allowing unscrupulous officials to use various agencies of the Fed. G’ment (IRS, EPA, etc) to harass American?

Are you in favor of trusting, believing “your own member of congress, Mayor and city councilman?” - Yes you are a fooling yourself.


57 posted on 09/14/2014 9:07:57 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: cotton1706

All these ratings numbers show me is that in the year before an election Roberts votes much more conservatively.

Putting window dressing on a moderate GOPE record. Lipstick on a Pig.

If I were a piss-ed off tea party Wolf voter I wouldn’t stay home , I would go and vote for the Dem and teach the GOPE a lesson.

Thad Cockroach has me spitting blood.


58 posted on 09/14/2014 9:17:11 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Kazan

” Name one good thing that has come from letting Democrats win elections since 2006.”

As dems have won elections, gop-e has lost power, and that is a good thing. Conservatives would have been better off if the gop had never held the house, senate a presidency a few years back. The dems, when they hold power, push their agenda, the gop-e, when it holds power, ignores all principles to focus on retaining power. They have no interest in the conservative agenda, but have no qualms in claiming to be conservative, giving conservatives a bad name.

The gop-e do more harm to the conservative cause than the dems ever did. I believe in the conservative cause because it is the only possibility of saving America. I believe in conservatism because I love my country, and want her saved. Voting for the faithless gop-e would be a way to show hate for my country.

The traitor inside the city walls is far more dangerous than the openly declared enemy outside.


59 posted on 09/14/2014 9:24:53 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: cotton1706; billhilly

“Should people who think only your way be allowed to serve? - another ridiculous question. Of course not.”

Actually - a person who only thinks my way SHOULD be allowed to serve - but I don’t advocate that only those who think my way be allowed to serve.


60 posted on 09/14/2014 9:32:18 AM PDT by GilesB
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