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Lawmakers to HHS: Why Are Ebola Warnings Getting More Dire? (Dare we ask?)
breitbart.com ^ | 12 Sep 2014 | Caroline May

Posted on 09/13/2014 10:14:59 PM PDT by Enterprise

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To: Greysard

If this disease gets started in our country, we had better be geared up and ready to suit up. We are sitting on a ticking bomb.


41 posted on 09/13/2014 11:45:52 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: pepsionice

In these poor African countries, they can only afford the cheap suits and under-equipped facilities. When the health-care workers are in jeopardy that is a recipe for disaster.


42 posted on 09/14/2014 12:04:16 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: pepsionice
The “special suits” are basically a $2 pair of rubber boots, and some plastic cheapo suit, with a head covering of plastic, and a google-like covering for the eyes, and a 50-cent mouth covering.

That's the difference between suits that real people use in real epidemic and the suits that select few use in level 4 biosafety labs. There are only 15 (fifteen!) BSL-4 labs in the USA, and one would imagine that most of them are not intended for treatment of large number of infected people. Those labs use air pressure control to detect damage to the suit; but even then workers may injure themselves with sharp tools that they use in their work. Those labs are NOT going to be available to common people. Ebola requires BSL-4 as it is highly lethal, has no vaccine, and is highly infectious. In other words, there is not enough facilities to reliably deal with an epidemic. There is a hope, though, that Ebola will not find suitable non-human hosts outside of Africa.

43 posted on 09/14/2014 12:07:02 AM PDT by Greysard
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To: Enterprise

martial law/quarantine.

forced removals.

being forced injected with god knows what.

disappearing.

i will not be participating.


44 posted on 09/14/2014 12:16:20 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: PGR88

... and Evil Republicans


45 posted on 09/14/2014 12:17:56 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Age of Reason

no.

the disease weakens the walls of blood vessels, hence the bleeding. you can have intnal bleeding and organ failure. your organs don’t drip out or liquefy.


46 posted on 09/14/2014 12:19:13 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Darksheare

ebola and marburg are both viral hemmorhagic fever diseases.


47 posted on 09/14/2014 12:21:04 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: jonrick46
They don't know. Brantly said maybe when he went to the ER to consult on suspected cases - (not in PPE Suit).

Also possible is contamination when taking off the suits. In the USA Level 4 labs, the people go through several decontamination processes which includes UV light. Not so in these countries.

Also, I saw pictures where they had gloves put over something in the ground drying out, so they are re using stuff. Maybe the stuff reused had something left on it. Maybe the gloves had a hole that is undetected.

Just some possibilities.

48 posted on 09/14/2014 12:32:44 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Enterprise

It’s racism.


49 posted on 09/14/2014 12:33:05 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: jonrick46

The toilets in Atlanta were first treated with Bleach and left sitting for a designated time before flushing.

Experiments have been done that show if the lid is up, bacteria from toilet flush goes quite a way all around the bathroom. So I’d be willing to bet that you could get a lot of contamination from flushing without treating with bleach and closing the lid.

I’d think the whole toilet and surrounding area would need to be treated with bleach to try and make sure all the surfaces were decontaminated.


50 posted on 09/14/2014 12:38:29 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yup.
They both do very similar horrible things.


51 posted on 09/14/2014 1:12:18 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee! First one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: webheart

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Even if it is hyped, any malady which kills 50% of the doctors treating it, in one country, would catch my attention.

It’s incubation period without symptoms is 2-22 days.

It’s very small (80nm x 970nm), and vary in length to 14,000nm. Those as small as 970 nm long are known to be infective.


52 posted on 09/14/2014 1:37:49 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Enterprise

Cynic mode engaged.

Problem: America is a tough nut to crack. If they try to institute martial law, grab guns it will start CW2 and give American Patriots the moral upper hand for defending themselves. Global warming, lying about guns, taking over education, indoctrination, seeding Islamic terrorists all over, creating violent drug cartels, etc has not worked to disarm and pacify the population

Solution: Create a perceived crisis that will allow them the ability to institute martial law, bring in international support, allow them to fire on US citizens, confiscate guns, contain, lock away groups, etc.

Possible method: Create a manufactured medical crisis that allows the moral use of deadly force and tyrannical methods against Americans.

It’s only a coincidence Ebola is the focus group’s scariest disease -isn’t it?

Cynic mode disengaged.


53 posted on 09/14/2014 2:34:25 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: Age of Reason

Yes it liquefies organs and other flesh. People bleed from every orifice and sometime thru their skin. Advanced stages they will defecate out their intestines, vomit their stomach lining. They usually die from multiple organ failure and or blood loss. The body becomes mush after death because the virus multiplies so aggressively it destroys almost every cell in the body.


54 posted on 09/14/2014 3:28:54 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Darksheare

Medical staff are saying they are getting it just from touching body fluids and in some cases touching where a patient touched.


55 posted on 09/14/2014 3:30:57 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: pepsionice
If you dig into the ongoing events...you start to see that the health-care workers in Africa...are dying at a fairly rapid rate. So, there’s not some big pool of semi-trained guys waiting to step into the mess there. And our answer? Send in the US Army....which means our own guys will get the disease...end up in the US eventually, and help transmit it in bulk situations to the rest of American society.

Another article stated that it would likely be a year or better to get it under control with a potential of 100K-200K infected. Seems like the plan is to ignore the inability to plug the hole in the dam and handle it when the dam fails catastrophically. I initially thought this would be a blip and be contained/controlled fairly quickly - now I'm actually concerned.

56 posted on 09/14/2014 4:30:27 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Enterprise

If the Ebola virus is such a potential major epidemic that is spreading, then why not eradicate the central source?

I know this sounds like a SciFi plotline, but the virus is not curable and is spreading so alternatives should be on the table.

Use tactical nukes set for detonation at about 1000 ft. above ground and let the radiation wipe out the virus and all of those in the areas of Africa who are infected.

I expect I’ll be slammed here for even suggesting that, but what other solutions are there for a potential world wide epidemic?


57 posted on 09/14/2014 4:39:20 AM PDT by octex
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To: octex

Genocide as a plan, yeah you just might get slammed. Not to mention it wouldnt work.


58 posted on 09/14/2014 4:43:53 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: null and void

ping


59 posted on 09/14/2014 4:51:50 AM PDT by SisterK
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To: Enterprise

If even a single case happened here, commerce would shut down almost immediately. People would lock themselves in their homes and not go to malls and only to the store when absolutely necessary.

It would make the Great Depression look like a walk in the park.


60 posted on 09/14/2014 5:13:56 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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