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Whatever You Do, Don’t Buy Your Aircraft Carrier From Russia
War is Boring ^ | 12 September 2014 | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 09/13/2014 2:48:08 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

India learned the hard way with INS ‘Vikramaditya’

Like a lot of countries, India wants the best weapons it can afford. But ideological and financial concerns mean there are a lot of things it won’t buy from the United States or Europe. That pretty much leaves, well, Russia.

India has been a big buyer of Russian weapons for 50 years. Those haven’t been easy years for New Delhi. India’s defense contracts with Russia have consistently suffered delays and cost overruns. And the resulting hardware doesn’t always work.

Of all India’s Russian procurement woes, none speak more to the dysfunctional relationship between the two countries than the saga of INS Vikramaditya. In the early 2000s, India went shopping for a new aircraft carrier. What followed was a military-industrial nightmare.

Wanted—one new(ish) carrier In 1988, the Soviet Union commissioned the aircraft carrier Baku. She and her four sisters of the Kiev class represented a unique Soviet design. The front third resembled a heavy cruiser, with 12 giant SS-N-12 anti-ship missiles, up to 192 surface-to-air missiles and two 100-millimeter deck guns. The remaining two-thirds of the ship was basically an aircraft carrier, with an angled flight deck and a hangar.

Baku briefly served in the Soviet navy until the USSR dissolved in 1991. Russia inherited the vessel, renamed her Admiral Gorshkov and kept her on the rolls of the new Russian navy until 1996. After a boiler room explosion, likely due to a lack of maintenance, Admiral Gorshkov went into mothballs.

In the early 2000s, India faced a dilemma. The Indian navy’s only carrier INS Viraat was set to retire in 2007. Carriers help India assert influence over the Indian Ocean—not to mention, they’re status symbols. New Delhi needed to replace Viraat, and fast.

India’s options were limited. The only countries building carriers at the time—the United States, France and Italy—were building ships too big for India’s checkbook. In 2004, India and Russia struck a deal in which India would receive Admiral Gorshkov. The ship herself would be free, but India would pay $974 million dollars to Russia to upgrade her.

It was an ambitious project. At 44,500 tons, Admiral Gorshkov was a huge ship. Already more than a decade old, she had spent eight years languishing in mothballs. Indifference and Russia’s harsh winters are unkind to idle ships.

Russia would transform the vessel from a helicopter carrier with a partial flight deck to an aircraft carrier with a launch ramp and a flight deck just over 900 feet long. She would be capable of supporting 24 MiG-29K fighters and up to 10 Kamov helicopters.

She would have new radars, new boilers for propulsion, new arrester wires for catching landing aircraft and new deck elevators. All 2,700 rooms and compartments—spread out over 22 decks—would be refurbished and new wiring would be laid throughout the ship. The “new” carrier would be named Vikramaditya, after an ancient Indian king.

A real aircraft carrier for less than a billion dollars sounds almost too good to be true. And it was.

Shakedown In 2007, just a year before delivery, it became clear that Russia’s Sevmash shipyard couldn’t meet the ambitious deadline. Even worse, the yard demanded more than twice as much money—$2.9 billion in total—to complete the job.

The cost of sea trials alone, originally $27 million, ballooned to a fantastic $550 million.

A year later, with the project still in disarray, Sevmash estimated the carrier to be only 49-percent complete. Even more galling, one Sevmash executive suggested that India should pay an additional $2 billion, citing a “market price” of a brand-new carrier at “between $3 billion and $4 billion.”

For its part, Sevmash claimed that the job was proving much more complicated than anyone had ever imagined. Nobody had tried converting a ship into an aircraft carrier since World War II. Sevmash specialized in submarine construction and had never worked on an aircraft carrier before. The ship had been originally built at the Nikolayev Shipyards, which after the breakup of the Soviet Union became part of the Ukraine. The tooling and specialized equipment used to build Admiral Gorshkov was thousands of miles away and now in a foreign country.

Like many contractors, defense or otherwise, Sevmash had its unhappy employer over a barrel. With the job halfway done, and having already dropped $974 million, India could not afford to walk away from the deal. Russia knew it, and was blunt about India’s options. “If India does not pay up, we will keep the aircraft carrier,” one defense ministry official told RIA-Novosti.

‘There will be grave consequences’ By 2009, the project was deadlocked and word was starting to get around the defense industry. Russian arms exports for 2009 totaled $8 billion, and Sevmash’s delays and extortionary tactics weren’t good for the Russian defense industry as a whole.

In July 2009, Russia’s then-president Dmitri Medvedev made a high-profile visit to the Sevmash shipyard. Indian news reported that the carrier was still half-done, meaning that the yard had done virtually no work on the ship for two years as it held out for more money.

Medvedev publicly scolded Sevmash officials. “You need to complete [Vikramaditya] and hand it over our partners,” the visibly irritated president told Sevmash general director Nikolai Kalistratov.

“Otherwise,” he added, “there will be grave consequences.” In 2010, the Indian government agreed to more than double the budget for the carrier to $2.2 billion. This was less than the $2.9 billion Sevmash demanded, and much less than Sevmash’s suggested “market price” of $4 billion.

Suddenly, Sevmash magically started working harder—actually, twice as hard—and finished the other half of the upgrades in only three years. Vikramaditya finally entered sea trials in August 2012 and commissioned into the Indian navy in November 2013.

At the commissioning ceremony, Indian Defense Minister AK Anthony expressed relief that the ordeal was over, telling the press that there was a time “when we thought we would never get her.”

Enduring woes Now that Vikramaditya is finally in service, India’s problems are over, right? Not by a long shot. Incredibly, India has chosen Sevmash to do out-of-warranty work on the ship for the next 20 years.

Keeping Vikramaditya supplied with spare parts will be a major task in itself. Ten Indian contractors helped to build the carrier, but so did more than 200 other contractors in Russia, Croatia, Denmark, Germany, Italy, Japan, Finland, France, Norway, Poland, Sweden and the U.K. Some countries, particularly Japan, were likely unaware they were exporting parts for a foreign weapons system.

The ship’s boilers, which provide Vikramaditya with power and propulsion, are a long-term concern. All eight boilers are new. But yard workers discovered defects in them. During her trip from Russia to India, the flattop suffered a boiler breakdown, which Sevmash chalked up to poor-quality Chinese firebricks.

China denied ever exporting the firebricks.

Finally, Vikramaditya lacks active air defenses. The ship has chaff and flare systems to lure away anti-ship missiles, but she doesn’t have any close-in weapons systems like the American Phalanx.

India could install local versions of the Russian AK-630 gun system, but missiles will have to wait until the ship is in drydock again—and that could be up to three years from now. In the meantime, Vikramaditya will have to rely on the new Indian air-defense destroyer INS Kolkata for protection from aircraft and missiles.

As for Sevmash? After the Vikramaditya fiasco, the yard is strangely upbeat about building more carriers … and has identified Brazil as a possible buyer. “Sevmash wants to build aircraft carriers,” said Sergey Novoselov, the yard’s deputy general director.

That almost sounds like a threat.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aircraftcarrier; russia; warisboring
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Soviet helicopter carrier Baku, pre-makeover. Note missile armament, guns. Photo via Wikipedia

1 posted on 09/13/2014 2:48:08 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Vikramaditya, post-makeover. Photo via Wikipedia
2 posted on 09/13/2014 2:49:12 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

big ship...funny how Putin is having France build four warships... ( http://en.ria.ru/trend/warship_01102009/ )


3 posted on 09/13/2014 3:29:28 AM PDT by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I would not buy any war ship built to Soviet standards. Had an occasion to go aboard a Kara class cruiser in the early 90s before the Soviet Union folded. It was an astonishing revelation into shody workmanship and poor design. Near as I could tell the Soviet naval designers had zero regard for the concept of water tight integrity or damage control. We saw door ways through compartment bulkheads that did not have water tight doors. Cable ways through bulkheads did not have stuffing tubes, the cables just passed through large openings. No fire fighting stations on the weather decks, and no fire fighting stations in nearly all of the compartments that we were allowed in. Never did see any semblance of emergency electrical cable system. The quality of welding was abysmal. Multi-pass weld with different pass counts in the same bead. Shell plating welds with dog shit and voids in the welds. Looks like the type of welds you would see in an apprentice 101 class, and would never be tolerated in the construction of an American naval vessel. I firmly believe that we could have sunk that cruiser with 5 inch gun fire alone, provided we got within minimum missile range. Obvious the concept of the Soviet Navy was that this ship had to stay afloat just long enough to launch it’s main battery weapons, after that, Oh well. Admiral Gorshkov will gladly present the captain and crew Hero of the Soviet Union medals, posthumously.


4 posted on 09/13/2014 4:18:44 AM PDT by X Fretensis (How)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Too bad the premise of the article isn't really supported by the facts, especially when you consider that Sevmash shipyard was chosen to provide post warranty servicing on the retrofitted Indian carrier for the next 20 years.
5 posted on 09/13/2014 4:29:52 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: X Fretensis
Tom Clancey toured a Soviet Cruiser. He said there were so many coats of paint on the gun turrets that he doubted they could rotate/elevate to firing position. He believed the ship was painted for every inspection, leaving many moving parts painted into a fixed position.
6 posted on 09/13/2014 4:39:35 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Mister Da

Saw the same thing on the Kara.


7 posted on 09/13/2014 4:41:08 AM PDT by X Fretensis (How)
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"China denied ever exporting the firebricks."

For some reason, that's funny!

8 posted on 09/13/2014 4:47:18 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: X Fretensis
Very interesting report.

Although I'm sure there were specifications it seems there was no welding quality control. The design flaws result from never having been in battle in a ship and realizing the damage control is essential to surviving the battle.

As a matter of interest, a Freeper once recommended the book Shattered Sword The untold Story of the Battle of Midway by Jonathan Parshall and Anthony Tully (Nov 2007). It is for me a revelation because it contrasts the American design with the Japanese design and determines that the design flaws you noted contributed to the sinking of the four Jap carriers.


9 posted on 09/13/2014 4:51:00 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: X Fretensis

Munir Redfa defected from Iraq to Israel with his MIG-21 in 1966. When westerner military techs finally got a look at the plane they couldn’t believe that the plane was riveted together. The seams in the skin of the plane were not even flush.


10 posted on 09/13/2014 4:52:21 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: BCW
funny how Putin is having France build four warships

After this story about what happened with Vikramaditya? It's not funny or surprising at all. The Russian shipbuilding industry produces crap, badly behind schedule and horribly over budget. It says a lot that Russia has to select the French of all people as better alternatives to their own industry.

11 posted on 09/13/2014 4:54:38 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: X Fretensis

USN operates former Soviet ship.


12 posted on 09/13/2014 4:56:02 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: mac_truck
Too bad the premise of the article isn't really supported by the facts, especially when you consider that Sevmash shipyard was chosen to provide post warranty servicing on the retrofitted Indian carrier for the next 20 years.

It says more about India's shipyards and their own corruption and incompetence. Google the Indian sub Sindhukirti and see what happens when they try and do it themselves.

13 posted on 09/13/2014 5:00:14 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: wetphoenix
USN operates former Soviet ship.

Which one?

14 posted on 09/13/2014 5:01:11 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Straight Vermonter

also found that the wing root structure was cast steel, vice titanium.


15 posted on 09/13/2014 5:06:28 AM PDT by X Fretensis (How)
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To: bert

Japanese learned naval construction from the Brits. The most significant flaw in their carrier design was that the aviation gasoline piping systems and tanks could not be not well purged and lacked nitrogen blankets like American carrier had.


16 posted on 09/13/2014 5:09:52 AM PDT by X Fretensis (How)
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To: Lower Deck

USNS LCPL Roy M. Wheat

It is a class of transport specifically designed to support Soviet invasion to mainland US at the time.


17 posted on 09/13/2014 5:54:04 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: sukhoi-30mki
India outsourcing. Isn't that a little ironic? Wonder who answers when you call for tech support. Peggy?
18 posted on 09/13/2014 5:58:39 AM PDT by McGruff (I'm thinkin.)
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To: Lower Deck

I wonder how many barrels of free escargot the Russians got when they purchased the warships?


19 posted on 09/13/2014 6:06:44 AM PDT by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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To: bert

Seems to me that unless you have a lot more men and ships with which to overwhelm the enemy, damage control would be essential. Otherwise, you’re fighting with disposable units.


20 posted on 09/13/2014 6:10:33 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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