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U.S. Judge Orders Arizona To Recognize Gay Marriage From California
LATimes ^ | September 12, 2014 | JAMES QUEALLY

Posted on 09/12/2014 9:18:47 PM PDT by Steelfish

U.S. Judge Orders Arizona To Recognize Gay Marriage From California Fred McQuire and George Martinez In this July 2014 photo provided by the Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund, Fred McQuire, left, and George Martinez pose for photos at their wedding in California. A federal judge ordered Arizona to recognize their marriage. (Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund) By JAMES QUEALLY

A federal judge in Arizona ruled Friday that state officials must recognize the marriage of two men who were wed in California this year, though the ruling will not affect the ongoing fight to overturn the state's ban on same-sex marriage, court filings show.

In a 14-page ruling, U.S. District Judge John Sedwick found that Arizona officials must recognize the marriage of John McQuire and George Martinez, who were wed in California in July.

Martinez died of a terminal illness this year, and McQuire was demanding that Arizona officials release a death certificate recognizing him as Martinez's husband.

"Couples in America should not have to play 'now you're married, now you're not' depending on which state they are in when a tragedy strikes, and states should not pick and choose which marriages they will respect and which they won’t as if we did not have one Constitution protecting all of us," Evan Wolfson, president of the same-sex marriage advocacy group Freedom to Marry, said in a statement.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda
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To: Secret Agent Man

Well, I guess that would bite them in the a**, wouldn’t it?


21 posted on 09/12/2014 10:12:48 PM PDT by bobo1 (progressives=commies/fascists)
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To: doc1019

fight or not, they still have no authority

anyone charged with violating the judges decree cannot be persecuted


22 posted on 09/12/2014 10:15:20 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

Watch the magic that is the federal government in action.


23 posted on 09/12/2014 10:18:11 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Steelfish; All
Regardless that the corrupt media and activist judges want everybody to think that the Supreme Court decided that the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) was unconstitutional, it turns out that Section 2 of DOMA is eviently still in effect still in effect, even if Section 3 isn't.

DOMA :

In fact, Section 2 of DOMA is reasonably based on the Constitution's Full Faith and Credit Clause (Section 1 of Article IV) which gives Congress the power to decide the effect of one state's records in other states. And regardless of the decision of the misguided judge, Section 2 indicates that it is entirely up to a given state to decide whether or not to recognize official same-sex marriages from other states.

On the other hand, are Arizona officials possibly working in cahoots with the federal judge to promote gay marriage?

24 posted on 09/12/2014 10:20:31 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Steelfish

Well thanks to all the lesser evils now in govt, there is no chance of a state pushback anywhere.

But it was really a great idea. Really. Standing with ones thumb inserted while allowing liberalism to advance unopposed is sooooo much better for America. Same result as pushing it themselves, but it’s better. Really. Lots better when an R does it./S

GO BREWER! GO LESSER EVIL!!! (See longstanding tagline)

BTW, I say this as an AZ resident.


25 posted on 09/12/2014 10:28:39 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: bobo1

seriously how can you deny any other state laws regarding individuals, being recognized in other states, then?

you cannot. they may attempt to rationalize an excuse but logically they cannot.


26 posted on 09/12/2014 10:37:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Of course logic has little to do with the progressive mind.

They can believe two contradictory things at the same time. Orwellian newspeak.


27 posted on 09/12/2014 10:41:26 PM PDT by bobo1 (progressives=commies/fascists)
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To: bobo1

yeah, liberal logic means never to having to examine your own hypocrisy.


28 posted on 09/12/2014 10:48:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ForYourChildren

sodomites are still a minute portion of the population but is a part of the bigger cancer.

It is the rejection of Christianity and the Bible.

As the Jews were hated for bringing forth the Laws of God, so it is the same for Christianity.

Thou shall not bear false witness, thou shall not steal, thou shall not have any gods before me, etc. flies in the face of the progressive agenda.

socialists/commies/fascists have to have the breakdown of morals to get their agenda across.

We give in when we agree with their terminology. They are not “gays”, they are sodomites, queers.

A liar is a liar, they did not misspeak.

perversion is perversion, it is not some psycho illness.

A thief is not a disadvantaged “poor” youth.

We have a party that is the godless party of perversion and another that is tagging along.

I am old. I fear for my children and grandchildren, not myself.


29 posted on 09/12/2014 10:52:21 PM PDT by bobo1 (progressives=commies/fascists)
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To: Steelfish

Tell the judge to embrace the suck. We refuse to obey an unlawful judgement.


30 posted on 09/12/2014 10:53:19 PM PDT by bobo1 (progressives=commies/fascists)
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To: Steelfish
U.S. District Judge John Sedwick is a G.W. Bush nominee. He is from Alaska but was apparently assigned this case in AZ.
31 posted on 09/13/2014 12:27:59 AM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: Steelfish

Yet another modern day Roland Frieseler.


32 posted on 09/13/2014 2:00:18 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Steelfish

state laws should rule in matters such as these - I do believe the US Supreme Court would rule for the State if given the opportunity.


33 posted on 09/13/2014 5:44:29 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SoConPubbie

“We need an amendment to the constitution to settle this matter, or we need to leave the union.”

You have it already. It’s the 10th Amendment. You have to assert it at every turn against the Federal government though - or it means nothing. With the 10th Amendment broadly applied, there is little reason for states to leave the union.

The 10th Amendment has been ignored and undermined since the Civil War. It will take a large sustained effort by many states simultaneously to restore it. It can be done - but it will take an educated and stubborn electorate to make it happen.


34 posted on 09/13/2014 6:08:31 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: elpadre

“I do believe the US Supreme Court would rule for the State if given the opportunity”

Even if they didn’t, states need to stubbornly insist that the 10th Amendment be properly applied. The Constitution does not depend upon having a full complement of competent Supreme Court justices. We don’t have that anyway.


35 posted on 09/13/2014 6:10:51 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: massmike

By Wolfson’s brilliant logic, states must recognize respect all marriages. All? Every type of love based on the endless Facebook list of sexuality? Every single kind?

Man-man, brother-sister, man-dog? Recently a woman in Canada got married to a Ferris wheel. She liked its vibrations. It’s called human-machine love.

Judges should require us to respect all marriages?


36 posted on 09/13/2014 7:11:53 AM PDT by heye2monn (MO)
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To: RFEngineer
You have it already. It’s the 10th Amendment. You have to assert it at every turn against the Federal government though - or it means nothing. With the 10th Amendment broadly applied, there is little reason for states to leave the union.

As shown by all of the Federal Judges overturning almost all of the State Level Constitutional amendments against Gay Marriage, your approach ain't working.

That's how it is supposed to work.

So what next?
37 posted on 09/13/2014 7:42:20 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Nuc 1.1
If this, then a concealed carry permit from would have to be recognized in another state.If this, then a concealed carry permit from would have to be recognized in another state.

Yup. My first thought as well. Unfortunately, you can't expect logical consistency from this crowd.

38 posted on 09/13/2014 12:13:30 PM PDT by zeugma (The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
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To: SoConPubbie

“As shown by all of the Federal Judges overturning almost all of the State Level Constitutional amendments against Gay Marriage, your approach ain’t working.”

Do it again. Outlaw it, refuse to accept Gay Marriages, reject federal funds (yeah, I know....) impede unconstitutional federal employees from doing what they do in your state. Arrest federal agents violating state law. There are lots of things you could do. Make the feds punish your state. Make them use force against you (federal agents, not military). Make them throw your state legislature in jail . Make them occupy your state.

Don’t secede, disobey.

Yeah, it won’t happen, at least not yet.

But as the Obama crowd is fond of saying “don’t let a crisis go to waste” - well wait until there is a crisis - a federal government shutdown, for instance - and take advantage of that.

These are some things - you can’t convince people overnight - or perhaps never at all. If that’s true then a state doesn’t deserve it’s rights back. It won’t be decided in the courts, and you can’t amend a constitution that will be ignored.

People have to want their freedom and self-governance back. If they don’t, you’ll never get there anyway.


39 posted on 09/13/2014 2:31:46 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: zeugma

True enough. Perhaps getting the judges to fear for their jobs would get them moving down the right path?


40 posted on 09/13/2014 4:18:58 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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