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What We're Afraid to Say About Ebola
New York Times ^ | 9/11/2014 | MICHAEL T. OSTERHOLM

Posted on 09/11/2014 11:23:51 PM PDT by DouglasKC

THE Ebola epidemic in West Africa has the potential to alter history as much as any plague has ever done.

There have been more than 4,300 cases and 2,300 deaths over the past six months. Last week, the World Health Organization warned that, by early October, there may be thousands of new cases per week in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea and Nigeria. What is not getting said publicly, despite briefings and discussions in the inner circles of the world’s public health agencies, is that we are in totally uncharted waters and that Mother Nature is the only force in charge of the crisis at this time.

There are two possible future chapters to this story that should keep us up at night.

The first possibility is that the Ebola virus spreads from West Africa to megacities in other regions of the developing world. This outbreak is very different from the 19 that have occurred in Africa over the past 40 years. It is much easier to control Ebola infections in isolated villages. But there has been a 300 percent increase in Africa’s population over the last four decades, much of it in large city slums. What happens when an infected person yet to become ill travels by plane to Lagos, Nairobi, Kinshasa or Mogadishu — or even Karachi, Jakarta, Mexico City or Dhaka?

The second possibility is one that virologists are loath to discuss openly but are definitely considering in private: that an Ebola virus could mutate to become transmissible through the air. You can now get Ebola only through direct contact with bodily fluids. But viruses like Ebola are notoriously sloppy in replicating, meaning the virus entering one person may be genetically different from the virus entering the next. The current Ebola virus’s hyper-evolution is unprecedented...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airbourneebola; ebola; ebolaoutbreak; ladyalqaeda; pandemic
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To: spodefly

...”If Ebola was coming to the United States to vote Republican, the government would find a cure.”...

Probably so..However, incurable and deadly diseases have changed the course of history in the past simply through infecting the left and the right equally. I suppose the well connected will get the best care when they fall ill, but that will not insure survival. The powers that be need to forget political correctness and get to work on this in every way they can.


81 posted on 09/12/2014 8:05:27 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Justa

The solution is quarantine, and quarantine amounts to a military solution.


82 posted on 09/12/2014 8:05:35 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Solve problems, don't bitch about them.)
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To: Jim Noble

You have a point there.


83 posted on 09/12/2014 8:07:58 AM PDT by iceskater (Enjoy your chains, comrades.)
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To: Black Agnes

I didnt know about the dogs
Dogs are hunted down and killed in Arabia so maybe no big deal there

Everything you say about the taxi system and all public places (and the filthy money money that changes hands multiple times in a day - our own US dollars are contaminated with e coli)

I’m going to bet the “executive assistants” and other govt mucka muckas have cooks and housecleaners who don’t
have a flush potties at their homes or in their villages where they go every week to visit family and take stuff

and for the men, the prostitute business is as casual there as us going for a haircut- esp for the truckers who haul everything across the continent

given the lifestyle over there I truly do not see how it will be contained unless Black Death measures are adopted (total seal off until everyone dies or says alive because of immunity)

and Obama is pompously sending US troops over there to .... do this job? Quarantine Africans to their deaths?


84 posted on 09/12/2014 8:12:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: silverleaf

True about the household help. Although many mansions over there have special quarters for the household help and their immediate families. Our apartment building had a special mini apartment over the garage for each apartment’s ‘butler’ to live in with his family. They too had flush potties and running water and electricity though. And this was 40+ years ago.

Prostitution is ‘casual’ in most of the world. Including most of the US, if you pay off the right people.


85 posted on 09/12/2014 8:18:31 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Rodamala; driftdiver
I learned a long time ago to wash my hands BEFORE using the lavatory and also not to shit and piss on my hands. Your mileage may vary.

All good sounding precautions.

HOWEVER, I might remind you that when you FART, you expel FINE PARTICLES OF FECES into the air around you. If this were not true, then you could not SMELL A FART.

BUT YOU CAN, and every time you smell someone else's FART, you have inhaled particles of FECES.

86 posted on 09/12/2014 8:23:58 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: voicereason
Based on information, it can be transmitted through the air if it becomes aerosolized such as through a sneeze.

OR perspiration, or flatulence.

87 posted on 09/12/2014 8:27:07 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: MNGal
He was discussing the book “The Hot Zone” and warning about the dangers of Ebola if it began to mutate.

AND, isn't that what it is doing right now ? According to the article it is mutating at an unprecedented rate.

88 posted on 09/12/2014 8:35:29 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Black Agnes
And when they ‘bring it back to their homes’, they’ll bring it back here to the US, right?

(and this map is 11 years old)

89 posted on 09/12/2014 8:39:26 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Note how many of those cities have public transportation systems. And hospital systems that would very easily become overloaded if just 3 or 4 people per day, for a couple of weeks, turned up in the ER with ebola.


90 posted on 09/12/2014 8:42:46 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Old expression: “somebody left the door open and in-flew-enza!”


91 posted on 09/12/2014 8:52:04 AM PDT by HandyDandy (Started out with Burgundy but soon hit the harder stuff....)
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To: UCANSEE2

well thanks for sharing. lol


92 posted on 09/12/2014 8:53:45 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Ditto puke. If you can smell the puke of someone who has ebola, technically you’ve potentially inhaled ebola virons.


93 posted on 09/12/2014 8:55:39 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: UCANSEE2

Bookmark


94 posted on 09/12/2014 9:05:37 AM PDT by southland ( I have faith in the creator Republicans freed the slaves. psalms 37:4)
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To: Jim Noble; DouglasKC; Dark Wing; Covenantor; Black Agnes; Smokin' Joe

The CDC and the WHO for that matter are waling a fine line with a lot of very irresponsible politicians.

They under no circumstances can tell them an unpalatable truth that will get them cut off from access to power because of the stakes.

An inadequate half a loaf policy that saves a few now and might let reality teach the politicos is better than being cut off by telling a truth that will result in hard reality denial until well after it is too late, with a blame the messenger


95 posted on 09/12/2014 9:14:28 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: Black Agnes

I guess it is safe to assume same would apply to body odor? bad breath?


96 posted on 09/12/2014 9:15:19 AM PDT by HandyDandy (Started out with Burgundy but soon hit the harder stuff....)
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To: HandyDandy

Yup.

If you technically shouldn’t eat or drink it, you shouldn’t breathe it either. Unless you plan on never swallowing again.


97 posted on 09/12/2014 9:16:37 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: DouglasKC

That’s it. I’m committing suicide, rather than risk getting Ebola.


98 posted on 09/12/2014 9:19:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Lazamataz

If we did just kill ourselves now, that might go a long way towards slowly the spread.


99 posted on 09/12/2014 9:22:52 AM PDT by HandyDandy (Started out with Burgundy but soon hit the harder stuff....)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; Lady Heron
The Reston Monkey House incident demonstrated pretty conclusively that Simian Hemorrhagic Fever is transmissible through the air. The lungs shed trillions of virus particles which are ejected long distances through sneezes. The particles can stay suspended in the air a long time.

And this virus was truly airborne. It moved easily from room to room throughout the monkey house through the ventilation system.

100 posted on 09/12/2014 9:24:53 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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